MS3 cam guys step in please
MS3 cam guys step in please I am trying to figure out where to begin with improving my 60' times but for starters I want to know what I "should" be 60-footing. I cannot get the car to do better than 1.85-1.88 (N/A) and I am launching as hard as I can with no tire spin, I can't even break the nittos loose at the track if I get them nice and hot. It seems to me that is pretty weak so I was curious where others are. Mods are in my sig, gears are 3.23, so if you have a half way similar setup please let me know what you run. Reason I am looking for MS3 cam guys specifically is because I know it effects the powerband and might not hit as hard as some other cams. Thanks in advance!
if you have an ls1 intake stock gearing and no heads.. that about spot on honestly.. my next mod would be 410 gears... then an intake, i would go 90/90 but if you dont have that kind of money go with a ls6... you should be a lot happier with that
3000 + converter and tires and everything else stock goes 1.6x's so it really depends on the converter not the intake or stock heads.
granted if it was cooler weather im cutting 1.4-1.5s.. but just an idea..
not everyone has a 5k stall and low *** gears... that makes a HUUUUGE difference.. i think he spot on.. but who knwos?
i have a ms3, and with my th400 (LONG first gear), yank 3800 stall and 3.42 gear on a 26" tire i get about the same 60' times 1.8's to 1.7's when it's cold out. i was considering trying a 4200 stall but dunno im in the same boat as you. my car is perfect on the n20 right now so i dunno if i want to change anything.
i'd try more converter first if i was you. depends on how much you drive the car but i'd go at least 4000 and go with a reputable brand- it makes a difference.
i'd try more converter first if i was you. depends on how much you drive the car but i'd go at least 4000 and go with a reputable brand- it makes a difference.
haha if you say so. something wrong with the way your launching your car. we go 1.53 in 85 degree weather 4400 stall and 3.89's at 3350.
4400 and 4.10s 1.45 in 70 degree weather.
all on a 28 inch tire
back to the op.
looks like you have a 3600 vig. so there is something you need to address because it should go 1.6's
4400 and 4.10s 1.45 in 70 degree weather.
all on a 28 inch tire
back to the op.
looks like you have a 3600 vig. so there is something you need to address because it should go 1.6's
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haha if you say so. something wrong with the way your launching your car. we go 1.53 in 85 degree weather 4400 stall and 3.89's at 3350.
4400 and 4.10s 1.45 in 70 degree weather.
all on a 28 inch tire
back to the op.
looks like you have a 3600 vig. so there is something you need to address because it should go 1.6's
4400 and 4.10s 1.45 in 70 degree weather.
all on a 28 inch tire
back to the op.
looks like you have a 3600 vig. so there is something you need to address because it should go 1.6's
i still think he is about right for his gearing and stuff.... agree to disagree..
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haha if you say so. something wrong with the way your launching your car. we go 1.53 in 85 degree weather 4400 stall and 3.89's at 3350.
4400 and 4.10s 1.45 in 70 degree weather.
all on a 28 inch tire
back to the op.
looks like you have a 3600 vig. so there is something you need to address because it should go 1.6's
4400 and 4.10s 1.45 in 70 degree weather.
all on a 28 inch tire
back to the op.
looks like you have a 3600 vig. so there is something you need to address because it should go 1.6's
Okay, so it sounds like there is nothing "wrong" with my car, but its looking like my converter is not flashing to 3600. I have a friend with an 05 GTO, he sent me several logs of his car running 12.40s-12.50s @ 108-109. He stalled to 2k just like me and when he hit the gas his rpms jump to about 3200. On a nearly identical pass my rpms jump to 2600. We both supposedly have 3600 converters, mine is a PI and his is a Fuddle. He runs 1.6 60' times and I'm in the high 1.8s. He does have 3.91 gears to my 3.23, but is that really worth .25 seconds in the 60'?!? Maybe a 1.87 60' is weak for a 3600 stall, but maybe I dont have a 3600, maybe I have a 2800 or 3000 or something and its probably right for that. Anyway, I am going to take it out later, put it in 3rd, not let it downshift and hit it from about 10 mph to see where the rpms jump to. That should give me an idea of my true stall.
right now only 6250 because it has 918s in it, until I can get some dual valve springs I'm being pretty easy on it. After the shift it falls down to about 4400-4500. My friends car that I spoke about above shifts at 6100 and it drops to only 4800 with supposedly the same stall. So go figure, his flashes 600 higher on the launch and his loses 600 less rpm on the shifts.
Thats strange, 3600 vigs I think are pretty reputable for hitting hard off the line. Before I went with a cam I shifted at 5800 and it fell to 4900-5000. Now I shift at 6500 and it falls to 5600 or so with a yank ss4000.
Posted this in my other thread, figured I might as well post it here:
Well I guess I have my answer, I locked the tranny in 3rd gear and hit WOT from 15mph and from 0 mph. I attached the log file, it stalls to about 2600 from a stop and maybe 3000 from the 15 roll. Wonderful I guess now it makes sense, put an MS3 cam in your car with a 2600 stall and you get worthless 60' times.
Well I guess I have my answer, I locked the tranny in 3rd gear and hit WOT from 15mph and from 0 mph. I attached the log file, it stalls to about 2600 from a stop and maybe 3000 from the 15 roll. Wonderful I guess now it makes sense, put an MS3 cam in your car with a 2600 stall and you get worthless 60' times.