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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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I took the car out yesterday and hot and sticky out so no new p/b for et but i didnt care about that anyway i just wanted to play with the 60.

So this time out i am on a 26x10x15 MT stiffwalled slick at about 14psi track prep was killer so i started out on the two stage at 5800 and it hooked good got one good turn out of the tire then it picked the front end a foot or more then a foot or two after it would slowly fall on its face or just loss momentum and then get going again i was putting down 1.70 a 1.68 a 1.66 Short time (60) and i only got in three runs and by the end of the day i was at 6200rpm and i think it wants more. Any input is good input so i am all ear's


I am trying to see what this car is going to do befor i swap to 4.56 gears and 28 tire from my 3.89 gear and 26 tire and i an shifting in to 4th gear but i think i need to try to run it throw the traps in 3rd

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Old May 31, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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I cut 1.42 -1.44 easy on M&H 26x11.5x15 cheeters w/m6,4.11's. car weight 3,700lbs with me in it and my suspenshion i'm sure is the same as we all do. my hals are at #1 front and #6 driver #7 passenger in rear. I have a bmr drag bar and it helped alot. if your falling on your face after the luanch go higher. I luanch between 6,200and 6,500rpm's off the 2-step every time dumping the clutch. then play with the psi of the tires. I run 14psi hot,for me this seems to work best. When I adjust 60 foot I only run 1/8mi and play with luanch rpm and psi ti'll I get what I want. next time,start at 14psi hot and 6,200rpm's,play from there. goodluck to ya.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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I cut 1.42 -1.44 easy on M&H 26x11.5x15 cheeters w/m6,4.11's. car weight 3,700lbs with me in it and my suspenshion i'm sure is the same as we all do. my hals are at #1 front and #6 driver #7 passenger in rear. I have a bmr drag bar and it helped alot. if your falling on your face after the luanch go higher. I luanch between 6,200and 6,500rpm's off the 2-step every time dumping the clutch. then play with the psi of the tires. I run 14psi hot,for me this seems to work best. When I adjust 60 foot I only run 1/8mi and play with luanch rpm and psi ti'll I get what I want. next time,start at 14psi hot and 6,200rpm's,play from there. goodluck to ya.
yea cuz i am sick of this mid 11 rut i am stuck in. I set the two step to 6400 and was going to make another pass but someone broke and i didnt fell like hanging around at all so i just left. Oh and one other thing how much tire spin are you getting at first when you dump i am getting about a turn and a half as its moving
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Old May 31, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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I just added i vid of one of my run's
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Anyone else have any idea's
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Whats the race weight, What shock settings?
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Whats the race weight, What shock settings?
race weight is 3450 to 3500 and shocks are at 0 in the front and 5 in the rear
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Rob get the 28's and gear in the car and it will be a different car ...IMO the 26's just dont cut it with the M6's .... my car really came alive with the bigger gear and tire combo
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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I will check the vid tonight, but given the weight and rpm launch, I think its not hard enough. If your changing the gear and tire, then lets look at that combo because all the settings and tire psi as well as launch rpm will change and you will be re learning the car.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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I will check the vid tonight, but given the weight and rpm launch, I think its not hard enough. If your changing the gear and tire, then lets look at that combo because all the settings and tire psi as well as launch rpm will change and you will be re learning the car.
Yeah thats not the hard part for me learning the new setup i just want to know if it is boging due to the lower rpm hit or the setup
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Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro
Yeah thats not the hard part for me learning the new setup i just want to know if it is boging due to the lower rpm hit or the setup
If your not over powering the tires (i.e. Wheel Spin) then that set up works for the car. If it is bogging then you need to launch harder (if you can) or do things like a rear gear change and to compensate for that, a larger sidewall.

You are heading in the right direction.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
If your not over powering the tires (i.e. Wheel Spin) then that set up works for the car. If it is bogging then you need to launch harder (if you can) or do things like a rear gear change and to compensate for that, a larger sidewall.

You are heading in the right direction.
Yea i know i just feel as if i am leaving something on the table by just going to the gear and tire.

And after looking at the vid alot i thing it was hitting the bump stops cant really tell need to slow the vid down
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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car is still looking good rob.. By switching to the 4.56s and taller tire what will that accomplish? I am still trying to learn all this stuff
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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4.56 gear will get it off the line harder faster but to deal with the harshness of the hit and the speed of the gear you with a taller tire like a 28 for the added sidewall (stiffwall slick) to take the hit off the line. And the 4.56 gear and 28 tire will put me at around 7000rpm at the traps in 4th gear.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Rob what was your limiter again i forgot but thats what you want to be at .....right at the top of 4th
then your getting the most out of the setup
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6900 or 7000
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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My car making 380-390 rwhp with no shocks on a M6, 4.10 rear on a 26" tall MT ET Drag slams on the bump stops. The car is 4000+ pounds. So go fig.

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You DO NOT need to launch harder, if you are geting 1 revolution of the tire that is just about perfect. A dead hook on a stick car will almost always break something.

What you need to do is slip the clutch a little bit more. This way you will keep the RPM up and will cary the car out of the whole. What is happening is that you are letting the RPM drop too much after the initial hit, its taking you out of the powerband and you can not get the car to smoothly accelorate.

Trust me, slip the clutch. Don't slip so much that you burn it up, and never dump it. When you dump a clutch you will either spin because ofthe shock to the tire, or Bog because you hook and the engine slows down.
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
You DO NOT need to launch harder, if you are geting 1 revolution of the tire that is just about perfect. A dead hook on a stick car will almost always break something.
What you need to do is slip the clutch a little bit more. This way you will keep the RPM up and will cary the car out of the whole. What is happening is that you are letting the RPM drop too much after the initial hit, its taking you out of the powerband and you can not get the car to smoothly accelorate.

Trust me, slip the clutch. Don't slip so much that you burn it up, and never dump it. When you dump a clutch you will either spin because ofthe shock to the tire, or Bog because you hook and the engine slows down.
That is what i was thinking. So i am trying to time the clutch and gas just right. i really hope to get this down pat soon and as aways thanx for the help alex

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Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro
That is what i was thinking. So i am trying to time the clutch and gas just right. i really hope to get this down pat soon and as aways thanx for the help alex

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