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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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I'm trying to think outside the box a little.

Has anyone tried running cooler fuel in the search for better times?
Initially I was wondering whether a air to fuel cooler would be any gain (like this one).




Then I notice Barry Grant do heat sinks for fuel pumps too?!




I'm thinking of running a fuel line coiled around inside an empty can and filled with dry ice or normal ice.

Has anyone played around with this stuff?
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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Most of the time they're illegal.
Check your track or series before you waste time and money on the project.

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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdragster1970

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Most of the time they're illegal.
Check your track or series before you waste time and money on the project.

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Never considered that?!

Are they illegal at some tracks from a safety perspective or something else?

Anyone running them at tracks that permit them?
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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why not just get this? at least you can fill it with ice.

the carbs benefit from it more then FI would. more time for the fuel to cool the air with carb setups.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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I've got the BG -10 setup new in box if your interested.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerTalk
Never considered that?!

Are they illegal at some tracks from a safety perspective or something else?

Anyone running them at tracks that permit them?


Just trying to help. It would suck to waste time & money for nothing.

I don't think I've seen more than 2 cool cans installed, and one guy stopped filling his
because it wasn't worth the headaches. I don't remember the exact issue,
but I know a couple of classes I wanted to run in did not allow them.
Page 184 for me, artificial cooling or heating prohibited.

Good luck.

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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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Cooling cans are something that have been around for decades. I am not sure they really help. Yes cooler air and fuel are better but the question is can you make it change enough to notice?Typicaly you run a small coil of fuel line in a medium can then dump ice into it. Cools the fuel quite nicely.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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i know it will help with my new setup (carb w/ turbo). i am not running any kind of intercooler, just relying on cool fuel and E98.


i would say with a n/a carb setup, it might help a little on the hot days (maybe a hundredth or 2). like stated above, would be a head ache to deal with little gain, if you are bracket racing.
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What about something like this to cool down nitrous lines?
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
What about something like this to cool down nitrous lines?
I don't know how to repsond to this.

NO
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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I was talking to a super stock racer a few weeks back. He mentioned this exact thing. He said he picked up nearly 2 tenths in the 1/4 mile from just icing his fuel before he ran. Basically he put his fuel jugs in ice for a while. He also said some people were putting dry ice in their fuel tanks. Not sure if thats too safe though.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
What about something like this to cool down nitrous lines?

I would say, do a search on N2O. How much colder do you want??
Minus 125 is pretty damn cold already.

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You could probably use nitrous to cool your fuel lines though, say, have it spray the lines in the staging lanes and down the track with some type of progressive controller. Using the "can" tecnique, I'd venture to say it'd be alot more effective than just icing the fuel. Kind of like a spray bar on a intercooler.
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Originally Posted by tim99ws6
You could probably use nitrous to cool your fuel lines though, say, have it spray the lines in the staging lanes and down the track with some type of progressive controller. Using the "can" tecnique, I'd venture to say it'd be alot more effective than just icing the fuel. Kind of like a spray bar on a intercooler.

Near all that heat I would say DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER!!!!!!!!!!
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This is what the cryjenic systems were and are if they still excist. It used co2 to cool fuel, intercoolers, trans cooler. co2 is much less expencive than nitrous.
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if your going to use nitrous as cooling, you might as well spray it in the way of the incoming air.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by night ryder
if your going to use nitrous as cooling, you might as well spray it in the way of the incoming air.

Exactly. My buddy with a blown gas car did that. Got 2 of those little 50 HP plates they used to sell a long time ago.
It added almost 200 HP mainly from cooling the heat build up from being compressed through the blower.
The air coming out of a blower gets pretty hot, which kills a bunch of power.

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We played with chilled fuel 3 years ago in hot street and found it to be worth nothing. We don't even mess with it anymore. Everyone was copying us for a few races.

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Originally Posted by custm2500
I don't know how to repsond to this.

NO
you don't? i can see that, lol....
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cooling the fuel is an old idea. do some research on HEATING the fuel to make power. maybe that will be more interesting.
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