Drag Racing Accidents opinions
11-03-2010, 01:13 PM
#61
down here, our state actually has a law on the books supporting the waiver. It is relevant to all outdoor moto sports - even Yugo mud racing as shown in my avatar (that's my old 86' with the big block and 4 brl Rochester).
one other thing not mentioned is whether the event is covered or not.
one other thing not mentioned is whether the event is covered or not.
Very true that some states have ruled in favor of the waiver's ability to preclude many actions but not all.
On the exact opposite side, some states have enacted statues that expressly prohibit entertainment based venues (ones that take tickets for money like drag racing strips) from disclaiming/releasing liability for negligence in some predefined situations.
There is a huge divergence on this issue.
11-03-2010, 02:30 PM
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it's a statute; not a ruling. Very true that some states have ruled in favor of the waiver's ability to preclude many actions but not all.
On the exact opposite side, some states have enacted statues that expressly prohibit entertainment based venues (ones that take tickets for money like drag racing strips) from disclaiming/releasing liability for negligence in some predefined situations.
There is a huge divergence on this issue.
On the exact opposite side, some states have enacted statues that expressly prohibit entertainment based venues (ones that take tickets for money like drag racing strips) from disclaiming/releasing liability for negligence in some predefined situations.
There is a huge divergence on this issue.
11-04-2010, 09:32 PM
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I know of four incidences.....
1. a track worker, playing with his dog ran onto the drag strip. A motorcyclist hit the dog, crashing....
2. a racer rear ends another racer at 60+ mph, because the dark return road (one lane) and one car virtually stopped.
3. a roof rack comes off a turbo vw and goes into the other lane, causing the racer to try and not hit it, which in the end caused a collision with the gaurd rail.
4. this isnt an incident, but just track procedure........cages, jackets, rules followed until 9 pm....after.....the magical hour of 9 pm, you can run 8.0 with a passenger in shorts and no helmets or roll bars at all if you want.
All the collisions were ruled as expected dangers.....the track didnt even pay medical bills for the rider that hit the dog.
1. a track worker, playing with his dog ran onto the drag strip. A motorcyclist hit the dog, crashing....
2. a racer rear ends another racer at 60+ mph, because the dark return road (one lane) and one car virtually stopped.
3. a roof rack comes off a turbo vw and goes into the other lane, causing the racer to try and not hit it, which in the end caused a collision with the gaurd rail.
4. this isnt an incident, but just track procedure........cages, jackets, rules followed until 9 pm....after.....the magical hour of 9 pm, you can run 8.0 with a passenger in shorts and no helmets or roll bars at all if you want.
All the collisions were ruled as expected dangers.....the track didnt even pay medical bills for the rider that hit the dog.
11-05-2010, 08:40 AM
#64
and the same type of situations can occur on any public street.
I worry about safety first, and whos going to pay last.
Luckily, I've got enough in the bank to insure myself.
I worry about safety first, and whos going to pay last.
Luckily, I've got enough in the bank to insure myself.
11-05-2010, 08:45 AM
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If i was racing and my opponents car came apart and damaged my car. Id kindly meet him in the pits afterwards and ask him if he would be willing to help repair any damage to my car. If he says no f off and go away, id call him a ***** and walk off lol.
11-05-2010, 10:15 AM
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Have you ever read the liability waiver you sign when you run your car? Theres things called associated risks my friend. Sometimes its easier just to shrug it off and move on. Most likely its going to cost less to fix my car than it would be to hire a lawyer and have the chance of not benefitting any.
11-05-2010, 10:55 AM
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dfdfd Have you ever read the liability waiver you sign when you run your car? Theres things called associated risks my friend. Sometimes its easier just to shrug it off and move on. Most likely its going to cost less to fix my car than it would be to hire a lawyer and have the chance of not benefitting any.
hell, my cousin is the state rep in the jurisdiction of our track.
what the hell am i worried about.
Life is good.
11-05-2010, 04:49 PM
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Hartland Ins Co quoted me right at $1300 for a year on track and off for just the car and $30k worth of coverage for my car and up to $50k on the other car with a $1k deductible. Nearly half of what Lutz wanted and seems to cover everything. I plan on going with them once everything is finished with tw car this winter to protect my investment with about another $10k of coverage. For a little over a $100/month for on track and off I can't afford not to purchase it.
11-08-2010, 12:52 AM
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IMHO it is unrealistic to think that a 22 yr. old kid that keeps his heap together with zip ties is going to be able to be able to muster up the cash for any damage that he causes to you or your ride.
So what happens in the world of professional motorsports like NASCAR when someone spins out and ends up taking out half of the field? Do his sponsors or insurance pay for all the damage he caused? Of course not. What if he loses a tire and it flies into the audience and kills a spectator? Not his fault, tragic and sad, but still not his fault and it cannot be proven.
So what happens in the world of professional motorsports like NASCAR when someone spins out and ends up taking out half of the field? Do his sponsors or insurance pay for all the damage he caused? Of course not. What if he loses a tire and it flies into the audience and kills a spectator? Not his fault, tragic and sad, but still not his fault and it cannot be proven.
11-08-2010, 09:56 AM
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social work certificate Yeah, and you can get yourself a social work certificate, and that'll do wonders for your career. Then, I'll do everything I can to make your life miserable.
11-08-2010, 10:02 AM
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IMHO it is unrealistic to think that a 22 yr. old kid that keeps his heap together with zip ties is going to be able to be able to muster up the cash for any damage that he causes to you or your ride.
So what happens in the world of professional motorsports like NASCAR when someone spins out and ends up taking out half of the field? Do his sponsors or insurance pay for all the damage he caused? Of course not. What if he loses a tire and it flies into the audience and kills a spectator? Not his fault, tragic and sad, but still not his fault and it cannot be proven.
So what happens in the world of professional motorsports like NASCAR when someone spins out and ends up taking out half of the field? Do his sponsors or insurance pay for all the damage he caused? Of course not. What if he loses a tire and it flies into the audience and kills a spectator? Not his fault, tragic and sad, but still not his fault and it cannot be proven.
11-12-2010, 08:52 PM
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If you dont think that the team would be paying for spectator injuries you are sadly mistaken my friend. And yes, im pretty positive that if one car wrecks and takes out 7 others, while they may not take full responsibility for the other cars but they are damned sure going to help out. Besides noone said anything about nascar. The hypothetical was IF you are racing, and an opponents car comes apart and does damage to your car, what happens. If it were my car to come apart and damage the other car, personally id be asking the guy what I could do to help.
What happens is you fix it, and that's all. If you can't accept the risk than don't race. Racing is racing and **** happens. It would be funny to see Judge Judy handle a case like this.
11-13-2010, 07:30 PM
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IMHO it is unrealistic to think that a 22 yr. old kid that keeps his heap together with zip ties is going to be able to be able to muster up the cash for any damage that he causes to you or your ride.
So what happens in the world of professional motorsports like NASCAR when someone spins out and ends up taking out half of the field? Do his sponsors or insurance pay for all the damage he caused? Of course not. What if he loses a tire and it flies into the audience and kills a spectator? Not his fault, tragic and sad, but still not his fault and it cannot be proven.
So what happens in the world of professional motorsports like NASCAR when someone spins out and ends up taking out half of the field? Do his sponsors or insurance pay for all the damage he caused? Of course not. What if he loses a tire and it flies into the audience and kills a spectator? Not his fault, tragic and sad, but still not his fault and it cannot be proven.
you guys are f*cking pathetic.
11-13-2010, 08:20 PM
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so true and so sad. i got hurt on my buddy's parents land riding a quad. ended up needing surgery my buddy's mom was freaking out that i was going to sue her. i told her "i decided to ride my quad and i got hurt how could i even think about doing anything to her?" $6000 later and there is still no way i would even consider going after her or her insurance. no need to make her rates go up for something i did.
11-14-2010, 01:30 AM
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All I said, was that any legal chase was asinine. And if it happened to me, i would ask the other guy if there was anything he could do. If not, so be it, ill fix my **** and be out there next weekend.