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Old 06-08-2011, 04:04 PM
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Well I drove it to work today and in a 3 mile drive home with 4 traffic lights in normal driving in 35MPH areas it got to 215deg. I am thinking about buying a bigger cooler but am wondering how much this 3.0 gear is hurting the car with the heat? I am sick of not driving this thing and debating selling it due to not being able to drive it.

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Old 06-08-2011, 04:35 PM
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How much for the car... and shoot me some pictures of it.
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Ive got a TH400 with a 5K converter and 4.11s in the rear. My tranny temps stay pretty cool. There's a couple of us that use this cooler from Summitracing. Its one of their house brands but its big and works great. After a pass at the track, when i return from the pass the cooler is still cool to the touch. Even after highway driving you can place your hand on the cooler and its tolerable.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G4969/

Heres a pic of it on my car.


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Thanks Minshall. I am going to order that one tonight and see how it goes. Wish it had AN fittings though.

JL if you are serious then shoot me a pm with a cell and I can text you pix and give you a call on it. I have alot of stuff in/on the car.
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Originally Posted by MUSTANGBRKR02
Thanks Minshall. I am going to order that one tonight and see how it goes. Wish it had AN fittings though.
Ya i wish it did too. But its worked so well im not going to complain.
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Well I just ordered a 3.50 gear and I am debating about which one of these coolers to buy. I am buying one cooler and that is it.

What do you guys think?
Option 1 bigger
High flow cooler - 3/4" fitting, 24.0 x 13.0 x 1.5 Overall size
Flow range 4 - 20 GPM
Heat rejection range 28,000 - 38,000 BTU/Hr at 2500 FPM air flow
Option 2
High flow cooler - 3/4" fitting, 18.0 x 13.0 x 1.5 Overall size
Flow range 4 - 20 GPM
Heat rejection range 21,000 - 26,000 BTU/Hr at 2500 FPM air flow
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They usually sell the same cooler with or without AN fittings. I always run AN fittings myself.
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I ordered the 24x13x1.5 cooler with a gear swap to 3.5 at the same time. I am also going to test the gauge to make sure it's working properly. Hopefully this resolves the issue.
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"Car sees 200+ within ten minutes of driving."
Part of the problem could be that the cruise rpm is less than stall speed. Y/N??
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Cal I hear that.... but I ran a 5000 on the street for a while and certainly never had it over 5000 all the time. I would see the tranny get to about 180, and that was with a cheap flex a lite cooler I got from summit right on the radiator. I would see it get to 200 if I got into some stop and go traffic, but it would drop back down once ya got rolling again.

A buddy just put a spragless converter in his car, and he's seeing about 30 degrees higher temp's after driving around about the same amount.. it's making more heat then his old converter did, but the stall speed also went from 3800 up to 4500 so I somewhat suspected this type of thing to happen.

Added tranny fluid capacity, is the first thing we are going to do to try to alievate the problem. He still has a small tranny pan on the car, a bigger tci one is going on as soon as it arrives from summit, see if that helps at all.
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I have the B&M deep pan on mine and the cooler and gear are in the mail right now so I plan to get them in and see what happens. If nothing then I have another th400 in the garage that is ready to bolt in. If that doesn't work then I will insert dynamite into gas tank.

I put 50 miles on it last night 25 at a time and it got to 210 the first run in the day with traffic from 97 ambient. On the way home less traffic and in night air it got to 220 starting from 130 ambient.
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Is it puking any fluid out the overflow?
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None.

I am also getting another gauge to rule that out.
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i think the plate coolers are supposed to be much more efficient than the tube n fin type, I'll snap a picture of my setup. If I can control my trans temps then I'm pretty sure 99% of street/strip guys can.
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Here's a tach vid of me driving around... notice the ~4k rpm acceleration (normal) and 100 rpm drop at the shifts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UGI6v5aPF4

And here's the coolers that keep the trans temps down and my water temps up

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Whats the ID on your trans lines? What about the fittings at the trans? Have you checked to make sure a hose hasn't partially collapsed or if there is some kind of obstruction somewhere? Just brainstorming!
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Wicked. Are those in series or parallel? What are your temps driving around?

B18 They are -6 AN SS braided lines. Non are crimped or collapsed.
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They're in a series which is supposedly a no-no but I don't have any issues. I run 180-200 max on the street depending on ambient temps. It makes some heat on the freeway (sustained 3500+), going up a hill, or after a pass but I don't see over 210 ever.
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It has got to be the converter or transmission as soon as I shut the car the temp just drops at a steady rate on the gauge.
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Have you checked your line pressure to see if maybe the pump is going out?


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