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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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I'm going to buy one soon. It's the last suspension part that I need. I'm still running the stock rear one. How do the UMI, BMR, or Sphon type compare to the more tradition type like the Wolfe. The Wolfe type is the kind of bar that we put on our 5.0 Mustang. Haven't run the Stang yet still in the building stage.

I like how the stock type of bars mount and look on the F-bodies. It looks more streetable then the forward mount types. Any opinions or facts would be a big help. Trying to eliminate the body twist that we are having.
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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I have the UMI bar,and its great. Its heavy, but I don't have any more twist issues.
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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Go stock style if you will do quite a bit of street driving. Look at ours if you will do mostly drag racing.
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Call Eric at Midwest Chassis. He has a really nice one.
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I am in the same boat as the OP.

I need a drag bar, and I have a friend with the Burkhart and it hooks lovely on the track, but he says it feels funky at speed in the corners.

I am probably going to get the BMR drag bar since the rest of my suspension aside from my tq. arm is BMR and in BMR black, and my TQ. arm is red so I am thinking a red BMR drag bar will go nicely and let me 60' even better. I've pulled a 1.53 60' out my car and I think it has a 1.4x in it before the sway bar really starts holding me back.
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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Go stock style if you will do quite a bit of street driving. Look at ours if you will do mostly drag racing.
Yea the car is a true street class type of car. I was also thinking that I could always disconnnect the links on the race type but it's just another piece you have to mess with. Thanks for the honest answer.

Has anyone run the TRZ style?
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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Call Eric at Midwest Chassis. He has a really nice one.
I'm going to do that. I looked in the search and found some info on their bar, it sounds like a nice piece. It depends on the streetability of it. Thats why I've waited this long. It has become a problem so time for a change.
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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I am in the same boat as the OP.

I need a drag bar, and I have a friend with the Burkhart and it hooks lovely on the track, but he says it feels funky at speed in the corners.

I am probably going to get the BMR drag bar since the rest of my suspension aside from my tq. arm is BMR and in BMR black, and my TQ. arm is red so I am thinking a red BMR drag bar will go nicely and let me 60' even better. I've pulled a 1.53 60' out my car and I think it has a 1.4x in it before the sway bar really starts holding me back.
Yes thats what has kept me from buying one. We have actually run some high 1.3's with the stock one but its ugly. We're killing the pass rear tire. The car will not rise up in the rear. It just squats and twists. The pass rear fender almost hits the ground.

A guy came up to me and said you need to run more pressure in the slicks. He said they were being rolled bad. I laughed and told him we were already running 16 PSI in them. The car has no anti squat what so ever.
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Originally Posted by 1lejohn
Yea the car is a true street class type of car. I was also thinking that I could always disconnnect the links on the race type but it's just another piece you have to mess with. Thanks for the honest answer.

Has anyone run the TRZ style?

That bar is an excelent piece. Its light and strong. It does require some work to install but its worth it in the end from what I have seen. I do not own one personally, but have helped install one before. I have a sphon and its daylight and dark beter than a factory swaybar. The sphon is not adjustable shock friendly so I just run the yellow ones that the car came with. Best 60 to date has been 1.38 cam only 3285 on drag radials.
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I drove with the Wolfe on the street for about 3yrs.. It's fine.. Like anything else you get used to it... Just don't do Any auto x with it I about wrecked my car racing on a 1/8 mile oval
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Originally Posted by 1lejohn
Yea the car is a true street class type of car. I was also thinking that I could always disconnnect the links on the race type but it's just another piece you have to mess with. Thanks for the honest answer.

Has anyone run the TRZ style?
NP. I would rather see you buy from someone else than get the wrong stuff. I had a BMR drag bar (Stock Style) on mine for a while. It worked very well and was OK on the street. I am sure there are other stock style ones that work but I do not have experience with them.

The issue with a true anti roll bar on the street is that it has no flex. It is designed to keep the housing in a specific location. Potholes and anytime you want a little body roll are problems. You can actually damage the ARB with too much of this.
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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I drove with the Wolfe on the street for about 3yrs.. It's fine.. Like anything else you get used to it... Just don't do Any auto x with it I about wrecked my car racing on a 1/8 mile oval
My buddy has the Burkhart sway bar and this is what he describes it like when you try to do any "spirited driving" any solid style bar that looks like the TRZ, Wolfe, Burkhart, MWC etc. etc. is going to give you some jitters when trying to do things it wasn't ment for. Comes with the territory of going fast and straight.

Now one poster said his bar isn't adj. shock friendly? I wonder why this is? I was planning on getting single adj. strange shocks while I bought the BMR bar, but if the Spohn doesn't work with adj. shocks I don't see the BMR either as they are the same style.
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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if you take a turn hard enough, it'll lift up the inside rear wheel, take the outside front wheel and put it up into the wheel well, and either spin you around or flip you over... Goin in/out driveway's w/ one is quite interesting.. Car stay's perfectly flat till a rear wheel hit's the incline.. you can jack the front of your car up w/ a jack just under one side..

As far as the ARB not working w/ adj. shock's its probably cause the bar crosses over where you should be adjusting the shock from...
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
if you take a turn hard enough, it'll lift up the inside rear wheel, take the outside front wheel and put it up into the wheel well, and either spin you around or flip you over... Goin in/out driveway's w/ one is quite interesting.. Car stay's perfectly flat till a rear wheel hit's the incline.. you can jack the front of your car up w/ a jack just under one side..

As far as the ARB not working w/ adj. shock's its probably cause the bar crosses over where you should be adjusting the shock from...
Thats good info. I don't want that to happen. I'll be going with a stock style and see how it works. Our car already does that with the frame connectors and bar in it. ( jack up the frt and the rear follows).

The Mustang will become the hard core drag car in the stable. The Camaro has always been modified as a true triple threat machine. Street,drag , and open track. So I have to make some concessions.
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Yea mine is just a double threat, street and track so I will also stick with the BMR style bar. I've seen people pull 1.2x's with it before so I know it's proven.

IllusionalTA- The poster who said the adj. shocks wouldn't work, said they wouldn't work with the stock style bar not the wolfe or arb style.

I still have stock shocks, and cut springs in the rear with coilovers on the front with stock shocks and I have only pulled a 1.53 60' so far, but I have only made around 16 passes in the car total. I know I need rear shocks at least and along with the BMR bar I think it would help me and your short times considerably.
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Yep I shoulda been more specific, as I've ran the Wolfe bar and had no issues.. I know the bmrs, spohns, etc curve like the stocker and getbin the way of the adj ****
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Originally Posted by 1lejohn
I like how the stock type of bars mount and look on the F-bodies. It looks more streetable then the forward mount types. Any opinions or facts would be a big help. Trying to eliminate the body twist that we are having.
You are correct, these types of bars are better on the street but still work at the track.

If you need any assistance I will be glad to help. Thank you!
Ryan
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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
Yep I shoulda been more specific, as I've ran the Wolfe bar and had no issues.. I know the bmrs, spohns, etc curve like the stocker and getbin the way of the adj ****
Man that sucks to hear, as I was wanting the BMR bar and adj. shocks.....damn
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its just the sphon that has issues. umi bmr ect have a bend around the shock area to allow for the ****,. the sphon is straight. if you do a search on it there are pictures of what I am talking about.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 07:05 AM
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After doing a search and watching videos of the before and after of cars launching, I will be getting a bar. I've needed one for awhile. We have been losing alot on the launch.

The UMI bar is my choice. The shock clearence is one reason as well as the toothed brackets that attach the bar to the housing.
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