nitto's vs mt's
09-07-2011, 02:38 PM
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I think this discussion has been beat to death in other threads. It all comes down to this: Nitto= Inferior Traction with Superior Tire Life, MT/Hoosier= Superior Traction with Inferior Tire Life. I don't know this car's setup but considering it's on 17's and not in drag mode I would say the Nitto would work fine. Maybe elaborate on the car's setup/goals and we can give you a suggestion based on your needs.
M/T's will take you further and have a higher threshold of traction, yes. But if they dont spin, they dont spin. Why spend $100 extra dollars on something you dont need and will wear out 3 times as fast? A 12 second car doesnt need M/T's.
09-07-2011, 08:30 PM
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well the motor is bone stock but i have a p&p tb,1 7/8th lt's and 3 in. ory,hooker aero chamber catback,4l80e fmvb w/t-brake conversion, strange 3in. driveshaft and 3200 stall,s60 35 spline axles w/3.73 gears and clutchless tru trak,bmr adj. t/a,non adj lca. I have 17 in. slp chrome rims on it for now, til i can get some 15 in. bs rims then ill get mickey's. was just asking about the nt05r if they were good for the money til i can get into the 15 in wheels.
09-07-2011, 10:28 PM
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Both nittos and mickey thompsons liked 20 psi for me at the track. The difference is in the burnout. Nittos need to be really hot to hook. So I would do a 10 second burnout (That's ten seconds after I start seeing smoke). MT's on the other hand get greasy if you over heat them. I found a 5 second burnout works best with them.
On the street I just run 35 psi regardless of the tire brand.
On the street I just run 35 psi regardless of the tire brand.
09-07-2011, 11:45 PM
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My Nittos like 15 psi but I haven't played around with them much, 8 "mississippi count" second burnout usually nets 1.7's, not the greatest prepped track and similar cars to mine but with a cam cut 1.6's on MT's.
I drive almost 200 miles to the track round trip, so I decided 555R's would be best(they don't make a 15" NT05R) ..if I didn't have to drive so far I'd be running MT radials for sure.
I drive almost 200 miles to the track round trip, so I decided 555R's would be best(they don't make a 15" NT05R) ..if I didn't have to drive so far I'd be running MT radials for sure.
09-08-2011, 12:25 AM
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09-08-2011, 06:04 AM
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That's not a waste. Nittos have a lot more tread life compared to the MTs. I have a set of both. Now even though I prefer my MTs, I have cut a 1.42 on my Nittos. I just hate how much it takes to heat them up to get them to hook like that. On the street I don't get traction till 80. Give and take.
09-08-2011, 07:27 AM
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A lot of people will disagree with this, including myself. Nittos definitely serve their purpose as long as you know the advantages and disadvantages, and know how to properly use them, they are a great tire.
Is there any other tire can cut sub 1.50 60"s and last 10,000 miles?
Bolt on cars don't need Mickey Thompsons. In a good prep, If someone cant make an 11 or 12 second car hook on good condition drag radials, i'd say there is something wrong with the driver or the car, not the tires.
Is there any other tire can cut sub 1.50 60"s and last 10,000 miles?
Bolt on cars don't need Mickey Thompsons. In a good prep, If someone cant make an 11 or 12 second car hook on good condition drag radials, i'd say there is something wrong with the driver or the car, not the tires.
09-08-2011, 08:26 AM
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I cut 1.50 60's on m/t et street 26x10.5, found they hook up best @ 7psi (they heat up to 8-9 after burnout) I think a 1.4 would be easy on the et street. I like the m/t tire on the track and the street. It hooks well on both applications. I don't dd my car, but the m/t usually last me a long time of mixed driving.
09-08-2011, 08:55 AM
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Everyone has there opinons but if you are looking for a tire to use at the track 99% of the time the nitto is worthless. There are some guys who get lucky at it works for them. I personaly am not going to bet my money on something that 1000 people tell is worthless because 3 people had good luck with them.
The way I see it is the nittos and BFGs are only slightly better then a true street tire and that is if you are lucky.
Good luck with the tires and I hope they work for you but I see disapointment in your future.
The way I see it is the nittos and BFGs are only slightly better then a true street tire and that is if you are lucky.
Good luck with the tires and I hope they work for you but I see disapointment in your future.
09-08-2011, 10:52 AM
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Everyone has there opinons but if you are looking for a tire to use at the track 99% of the time the nitto is worthless. There are some guys who get lucky at it works for them. I personaly am not going to bet my money on something that 1000 people tell is worthless because 3 people had good luck with them.
The way I see it is the nittos and BFGs are only slightly better then a true street tire and that is if you are lucky.
Good luck with the tires and I hope they work for you but I see disapointment in your future.
The way I see it is the nittos and BFGs are only slightly better then a true street tire and that is if you are lucky.
Good luck with the tires and I hope they work for you but I see disapointment in your future.
I wonder how many of the 1000 testimonials are from people who
A). Havent used them properly or
B). Havent used them at all
I can tell you that I've personally bought, owned, driven, and raced with several different cars with Nitto DR's ranging from stock power, stalled/built tranny cars, to a full bolt on/supercharged LS1 ect ect and I've never been dissapointed with Nitto's performance...
09-08-2011, 11:14 AM
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I have used the "crappier" 555R and got the same 60ft as a larger size M/T with an off idle launch and my car has such stiff suspension you can not see weight transfer during a launch.
Have friends running them on: another cammed/stalled ls1 chevelle, full bolt on/stall 02 z/28, a cammed/bolt on m6 c5, and raced a guy using them on a GT500.
They aren't the best but they aren't as bad as some people would like to believe.
Have friends running them on: another cammed/stalled ls1 chevelle, full bolt on/stall 02 z/28, a cammed/bolt on m6 c5, and raced a guy using them on a GT500.
They aren't the best but they aren't as bad as some people would like to believe.
09-08-2011, 12:21 PM
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I have talked to atleast 8-10 people at the local track who have used the BFGs and 3-4 who have nittos. None of them said they would buy them again. They just aren't worth the money vs. the little bennefit.
If people who are at the track don't feel they are that good of tire(regardless of prep for that or any other night) that means they aren't much if any help on the street. Wile i have never owned them I feel I have spoken with and read plenty of bad reviews to confidently have little to no faith in them.
If people who are at the track don't feel they are that good of tire(regardless of prep for that or any other night) that means they aren't much if any help on the street. Wile i have never owned them I feel I have spoken with and read plenty of bad reviews to confidently have little to no faith in them.
09-08-2011, 01:38 PM
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If I rolled into the throttle just somewhat (fraction of a second) with Nittos (275/50r15) they would launch perfectly on the street. (same for the 325/50r15 M/T I currently have)
Street tires (295/50r15) are a joke on my car. If you are in first gear and over 70% throttle the car is spinning. Period. Roll, dig, kickdown...anything.
The kicker? Nittos= ~$300 shipped. Cheapest 295/50 street tire= ~$250 shipped (name brand like Firestone or BFG a good bit more).
They were excellent bang for buck. I had 12k miles on mine and they would go another 4k+ but I didn't want to drive them in the rain and at the time didn't have extra wheels so street tires went back on.
My only complaints with them are they are small for their rated size and they take a long burnout at the track to work there (but at least they do work, unlike a street radial).
I'm using a M/T now. Also work both street/strip (easier than Nittos to make work at the track), but such in the rain even with full tread. They also wear faster and cost a lot more. I like they are large though, not small like Nittos.
Now that I have extra wheels I will likely repurchase M/T just because I don't have to worry about wearing them out and they are wider to fit my wheels better.
Street tires (295/50r15) are a joke on my car. If you are in first gear and over 70% throttle the car is spinning. Period. Roll, dig, kickdown...anything.
The kicker? Nittos= ~$300 shipped. Cheapest 295/50 street tire= ~$250 shipped (name brand like Firestone or BFG a good bit more).
They were excellent bang for buck. I had 12k miles on mine and they would go another 4k+ but I didn't want to drive them in the rain and at the time didn't have extra wheels so street tires went back on.
My only complaints with them are they are small for their rated size and they take a long burnout at the track to work there (but at least they do work, unlike a street radial).
I'm using a M/T now. Also work both street/strip (easier than Nittos to make work at the track), but such in the rain even with full tread. They also wear faster and cost a lot more. I like they are large though, not small like Nittos.
Now that I have extra wheels I will likely repurchase M/T just because I don't have to worry about wearing them out and they are wider to fit my wheels better.