FMS Solid Roller Setup Madien Voyage@HRP
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[quote]Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>Oh yeah, what is your full list of drivetrain/suspension mods?
Tony</strong><hr></blockquote>
Tony, I think you can buy the book on Amazon.com
Tim
<strong>Oh yeah, what is your full list of drivetrain/suspension mods?
Tony</strong><hr></blockquote>
Tony, I think you can buy the book on Amazon.com
Tim
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LOL Tim, no the book has not been released for publication yet. hehehe
Thanks Tony,
Yep it was packed and there was still a line of cars coming in when we left.
I was crossing the finish line at about 6900 rpm.
The conditions at the time of my .06 run were:
52.2 degrees, 47% humidity, 30.10 barometer, DA -598'
Here's the complete list of all my mods:
INTERNAL ENGINE
* More Performance* 346 cid LS1 Short Block / B&B
* Wiseco Pistons & Ring Kit
* Lunati Pro Mod Rods 6.125"
* Fedral Mogul Coated main bearings / cam bearings
* LS1 Block & Crankshaft "Cryogenicly Treated"
- FMS/Cam Motion Cam 236/241 .680/.680 112 LS
- Cloyes Adjustable LS1 Timing Set
- T&D Shaft Mount Rocker Arms (1.7 ratio)
- K-Motion 900 1.55" Valvesprings
- Manley Titainium Retainers
- Crane Mechanical Lifters
- Comp Cams Pushrods
- FMS/Meaux Racing Ported 98' LS1 Heads ~ milled .070 = 11.5:1 CR
- Ferra Valves 2.055/1.600
- NWE Valve Cover Spacers
- ARP LS1 Head Stud Kit
- LS6 Oil Pump (ARE ported)
DRY SUMP OILING SYSTEM
- Razor Dry Sump Scavenge Pump w/pulley
- A.R.E. Stage 2 LS1 Dry Sump Oil Pan {FMS Modified}
- Peterson Dry Sump Tank
- Tru-Cool Oil Cooler
- Stefs Oil Breather/Overflow Tank
- Remote Oil Filter Mount/Fram HP6 Super Racing Filter
- Moroso Omni-Filter {60 micron}
- AN Fittings & SS Flex Hose
EXTERNAL ENGINE
- ATI/SuperDamper {underdrive pulley}
- ASP Tensinor Pulley
- K-Tech Billet Tensinor
- HyperTech 160 degree T-stat
- 36 lb. Injectors
- Accel 8.8mm 300+ Race Plug Wires
- NGK TR-6 Sparkplugs
- Holley/Walbro LS1 Fuel Pump
- Jester Aluminum Coolant Catch Can
- Stage 8 Locking Header Bolts
INDUCTION
- LS6 Intake (port matched)
- MMS 75mm ported TB w/TB By-pass mod
- 85mm Truck MAF w/screen removed
- Whisper Lid
- K&N Filter
- FTRA Kit
PCM
- 98' LS1 PCM
- FMS Custom Tuning
- MAF Translator
EXHAUST
- FMS/Custom LS1 Step Headers 1 3/4"-1 7/8"(coated)
- DynaTech 3" Drag Collectors (coated)
- FMS/Custom 3" ORP (coated)
- 3.5" Cutout (coated)
- Mufflex 3.5" Exhaust
- DynoMax 4" Bullet Muffler (track use)
TRANSMISSION
- B&W T-56 M6 Transmission w/OEM tranny mount
- GM Slave Cylinder/ T-O Bearing {2001 ver.}
- McLeod Adj. Clutch Master Cylinder
- Ram VDS Clutch w/Billet Steel Flywheel
- Pro 5.0 Shifter
- ACPT CF Driveshaft / Strange Chromoly DS as spare
- Lakewood DS/Loop
- Moser 4.56 Gears
- Strange 12-Bolt Rear End
- Eaton 33 Spline Posi
- 800 lb. Preload Clutch Pak
SUSPENSION
- PA Performance Chromoly K-member & Lower A-arms
- Baer Trackers
- HAL Drag Springs (front)
- HAL Drag Shocks F/R
- V6 Springs (rear)
- Random Tech Adj. Torque Arm
- BMR Chromoly Adjustable LCA's
- GWS PHR
- GWS LCA relocation brackets
- Wolfe Chromoly SFC's
- Hotchkis Swaybar (rear)
- Airbag (RR spring)
- Front swaybar removed
BRAKES {Stock Calipers}
- Powerslot Rotors F/R
- Hawk pads F/R
- Earls SS Brake Line Kit
- Hurst Line Lock
WHEELS & TIRES
- Forgeline RS-5 17x9.5
- Nitto Extreme NT 555 Radials 275/40-17 (front)
- Nitto Extreme NT 555 Drag Radials 275/40-17 (rear)
- Bogart P1 Series D-10 15x9 - 15x3.5
- MT ET Drag w/tubes 28x10.50-15
- MT ET Front 26x4.5-15
MISC.
- Wolfe Racecraft 6 pt. Rollbar
- RJS 5 pt. Safety Harness
- Momo Race Steering Wheel
- Battery Relocated
- Moroso Sealed Box
- Flaming River on/off Switch & Cable Kit
- Autometer Sport-Comp 5" Monster Tach 8K
- Autometer Fuel Pressure Gauge
- Autometer A/F Mixture Gauge
- O2 Sims
- CAGS Eliminator
- A/C Removed
- EGR Removed
- A.I.R. Removed
- Royal Purple Racing 21 oil
Thats all of them...
Gordon
[ January 27, 2002: Message edited by: GTS SS ]</p>
Thanks Tony,
Yep it was packed and there was still a line of cars coming in when we left.
I was crossing the finish line at about 6900 rpm.
The conditions at the time of my .06 run were:
52.2 degrees, 47% humidity, 30.10 barometer, DA -598'
Here's the complete list of all my mods:
INTERNAL ENGINE
* More Performance* 346 cid LS1 Short Block / B&B
* Wiseco Pistons & Ring Kit
* Lunati Pro Mod Rods 6.125"
* Fedral Mogul Coated main bearings / cam bearings
* LS1 Block & Crankshaft "Cryogenicly Treated"
- FMS/Cam Motion Cam 236/241 .680/.680 112 LS
- Cloyes Adjustable LS1 Timing Set
- T&D Shaft Mount Rocker Arms (1.7 ratio)
- K-Motion 900 1.55" Valvesprings
- Manley Titainium Retainers
- Crane Mechanical Lifters
- Comp Cams Pushrods
- FMS/Meaux Racing Ported 98' LS1 Heads ~ milled .070 = 11.5:1 CR
- Ferra Valves 2.055/1.600
- NWE Valve Cover Spacers
- ARP LS1 Head Stud Kit
- LS6 Oil Pump (ARE ported)
DRY SUMP OILING SYSTEM
- Razor Dry Sump Scavenge Pump w/pulley
- A.R.E. Stage 2 LS1 Dry Sump Oil Pan {FMS Modified}
- Peterson Dry Sump Tank
- Tru-Cool Oil Cooler
- Stefs Oil Breather/Overflow Tank
- Remote Oil Filter Mount/Fram HP6 Super Racing Filter
- Moroso Omni-Filter {60 micron}
- AN Fittings & SS Flex Hose
EXTERNAL ENGINE
- ATI/SuperDamper {underdrive pulley}
- ASP Tensinor Pulley
- K-Tech Billet Tensinor
- HyperTech 160 degree T-stat
- 36 lb. Injectors
- Accel 8.8mm 300+ Race Plug Wires
- NGK TR-6 Sparkplugs
- Holley/Walbro LS1 Fuel Pump
- Jester Aluminum Coolant Catch Can
- Stage 8 Locking Header Bolts
INDUCTION
- LS6 Intake (port matched)
- MMS 75mm ported TB w/TB By-pass mod
- 85mm Truck MAF w/screen removed
- Whisper Lid
- K&N Filter
- FTRA Kit
PCM
- 98' LS1 PCM
- FMS Custom Tuning
- MAF Translator
EXHAUST
- FMS/Custom LS1 Step Headers 1 3/4"-1 7/8"(coated)
- DynaTech 3" Drag Collectors (coated)
- FMS/Custom 3" ORP (coated)
- 3.5" Cutout (coated)
- Mufflex 3.5" Exhaust
- DynoMax 4" Bullet Muffler (track use)
TRANSMISSION
- B&W T-56 M6 Transmission w/OEM tranny mount
- GM Slave Cylinder/ T-O Bearing {2001 ver.}
- McLeod Adj. Clutch Master Cylinder
- Ram VDS Clutch w/Billet Steel Flywheel
- Pro 5.0 Shifter
- ACPT CF Driveshaft / Strange Chromoly DS as spare
- Lakewood DS/Loop
- Moser 4.56 Gears
- Strange 12-Bolt Rear End
- Eaton 33 Spline Posi
- 800 lb. Preload Clutch Pak
SUSPENSION
- PA Performance Chromoly K-member & Lower A-arms
- Baer Trackers
- HAL Drag Springs (front)
- HAL Drag Shocks F/R
- V6 Springs (rear)
- Random Tech Adj. Torque Arm
- BMR Chromoly Adjustable LCA's
- GWS PHR
- GWS LCA relocation brackets
- Wolfe Chromoly SFC's
- Hotchkis Swaybar (rear)
- Airbag (RR spring)
- Front swaybar removed
BRAKES {Stock Calipers}
- Powerslot Rotors F/R
- Hawk pads F/R
- Earls SS Brake Line Kit
- Hurst Line Lock
WHEELS & TIRES
- Forgeline RS-5 17x9.5
- Nitto Extreme NT 555 Radials 275/40-17 (front)
- Nitto Extreme NT 555 Drag Radials 275/40-17 (rear)
- Bogart P1 Series D-10 15x9 - 15x3.5
- MT ET Drag w/tubes 28x10.50-15
- MT ET Front 26x4.5-15
MISC.
- Wolfe Racecraft 6 pt. Rollbar
- RJS 5 pt. Safety Harness
- Momo Race Steering Wheel
- Battery Relocated
- Moroso Sealed Box
- Flaming River on/off Switch & Cable Kit
- Autometer Sport-Comp 5" Monster Tach 8K
- Autometer Fuel Pressure Gauge
- Autometer A/F Mixture Gauge
- O2 Sims
- CAGS Eliminator
- A/C Removed
- EGR Removed
- A.I.R. Removed
- Royal Purple Racing 21 oil
Thats all of them...
Gordon
[ January 27, 2002: Message edited by: GTS SS ]</p>
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1.4x 60's possible consistantly? hmmmmm, I don't know about consistantly, but it might be possible to get that kind of 60' out of the car with the way it leaves now. The power is there.
Depends on the track condition mainly,
but given more seat time, and with a great hooking track like it was at HRP friday night, and some more tweaking on the pcm tune & on the shock settings, yeah I think that could happen. I can also remove the exhaust and the passenger seat and save another 72 lbs or so.
Why dry sump?
Because it was available for the LS1's, need I say more? <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Gordon
[ January 27, 2002: Message edited by: GTS SS ]</p>
Depends on the track condition mainly,
but given more seat time, and with a great hooking track like it was at HRP friday night, and some more tweaking on the pcm tune & on the shock settings, yeah I think that could happen. I can also remove the exhaust and the passenger seat and save another 72 lbs or so.
Why dry sump?
Because it was available for the LS1's, need I say more? <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Gordon
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[quote]Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>Damn you guys, you got me thinking about solid rollers and gears again! <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Oh, and Jason Reibert and Chris B, shaddup about the solid rollers hahaha. I know its coming <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Tony</strong><hr></blockquote>
OK Tony, I'll keep my mouth shut. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> LOL
I think the 4.56s are a good idea. If you don't want to go that far, the 4:30s aren't a bad idea as well. Since you have 4:10s now, you just soon try the 4.56s out. I would highly consider a set of 28" ET DRAGS or Hoosiers if you are looking for low 1.5s/high 1.4s consitantly. The 28" tires will make the car more consitant and add some extra hook. This was the route I was going to take awhile back.
Tony, do you have a recent dyno sheet to see what your car is doing after 6600rpms?
<strong>Damn you guys, you got me thinking about solid rollers and gears again! <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Oh, and Jason Reibert and Chris B, shaddup about the solid rollers hahaha. I know its coming <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Tony</strong><hr></blockquote>
OK Tony, I'll keep my mouth shut. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> LOL
I think the 4.56s are a good idea. If you don't want to go that far, the 4:30s aren't a bad idea as well. Since you have 4:10s now, you just soon try the 4.56s out. I would highly consider a set of 28" ET DRAGS or Hoosiers if you are looking for low 1.5s/high 1.4s consitantly. The 28" tires will make the car more consitant and add some extra hook. This was the route I was going to take awhile back.
Tony, do you have a recent dyno sheet to see what your car is doing after 6600rpms?
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I still think the 28" tires are the key to getting any consistant 60-foot times. Thats why I'm staying with them...just need to get them on 10" wide rims to help my footprint out <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Man.... .680 lift <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> thats some serious valve action. But your cam duration and LSA are right in the neighborhood of what I'm looking at. How does it idle with that bumpstick????
Man.... .680 lift <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> thats some serious valve action. But your cam duration and LSA are right in the neighborhood of what I'm looking at. How does it idle with that bumpstick????
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Dayum! And I thought my mods list was big. Your car is badass as usual, that seems like one hell of a motor build up. Makes mine look kinda simple haha.
Was the dry sump setup just for peace of mind?
Do you think 1.4X 60' times will be possible (consistently) with more seat time on a good track?
4.56 gears.... hmmm..... I wonder if I could get away with those. Where is Joe Kizzire at? If I shift at 6600 and am crossing around 6600 with my 4.10s and 26.4" tall slicks, would I ET better with those gears and crossing at 7K?
Damn you guys, you got me thinking about solid rollers and gears again! <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Oh, and Jason Reibert and Chris B, shaddup about the solid rollers hahaha. I know its coming <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Tony
Was the dry sump setup just for peace of mind?
Do you think 1.4X 60' times will be possible (consistently) with more seat time on a good track?
4.56 gears.... hmmm..... I wonder if I could get away with those. Where is Joe Kizzire at? If I shift at 6600 and am crossing around 6600 with my 4.10s and 26.4" tall slicks, would I ET better with those gears and crossing at 7K?
Damn you guys, you got me thinking about solid rollers and gears again! <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Oh, and Jason Reibert and Chris B, shaddup about the solid rollers hahaha. I know its coming <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Tony
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congrats Gordon...and thanks everybody.We still have some more tuning to play with.Car has a soft tune-up to get everything going,and will be replacing with an aggressive tune-up soon.
Have your glory for now Gordo <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> for I will be upgrading soon <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
Have your glory for now Gordo <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> for I will be upgrading soon <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by geauxlow:
<strong>Great run Gorden, 10's are so close you can taste them. Awesome 60' also. Hey I hear that Allan is the best around town, I guess that's so.</strong><hr></blockquote>
WOW!!! I guess it's not too hard to be the best around Walker. <img src="graemlins/gr_zzz.gif" border="0" alt="[boring]" />
<strong>Great run Gorden, 10's are so close you can taste them. Awesome 60' also. Hey I hear that Allan is the best around town, I guess that's so.</strong><hr></blockquote>
WOW!!! I guess it's not too hard to be the best around Walker. <img src="graemlins/gr_zzz.gif" border="0" alt="[boring]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by Blue Z:
<strong>
WOW!!! I guess it's not too hard to be the best around Walker. <img src="graemlins/gr_zzz.gif" border="0" alt="[boring]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote> tiss tiss, no need to be jealous now <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0"> I should of said southern Louisiana <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
[ January 28, 2002: Message edited by: geauxlow ]
[ January 28, 2002: Message edited by: geauxlow ] <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" /> <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
[ January 28, 2002: Message edited by: geauxlow ]</p>
<strong>
WOW!!! I guess it's not too hard to be the best around Walker. <img src="graemlins/gr_zzz.gif" border="0" alt="[boring]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote> tiss tiss, no need to be jealous now <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0"> I should of said southern Louisiana <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
[ January 28, 2002: Message edited by: geauxlow ]
[ January 28, 2002: Message edited by: geauxlow ] <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" /> <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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[quote]Originally posted by Fireball:
<strong>Man.... .680 lift <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> thats some serious valve action. But your cam duration and LSA are right in the neighborhood of what I'm looking at. How does it idle with that bumpstick????</strong><hr></blockquote>
Fireball,
The idle is fairly rough with a good hit to it, but the car drives easier on the street now then my previous 226 hyd cam did.
Go figure... <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Gordon
<strong>Man.... .680 lift <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> thats some serious valve action. But your cam duration and LSA are right in the neighborhood of what I'm looking at. How does it idle with that bumpstick????</strong><hr></blockquote>
Fireball,
The idle is fairly rough with a good hit to it, but the car drives easier on the street now then my previous 226 hyd cam did.
Go figure... <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Gordon