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Old 04-21-2021 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28SteveA4
I didn’t see it anywhere but what’s the compression ratio?? Maybe pull the heads, change the lifters, mill the heads for a bump in compression and then add a MSD intake if you are spinning it over 7k. I bet you’d pick up some power from the compression bump (if possible) and the intake setup. Also what fuel are you running it on?
I will have to look through some receipts and see if I can find the compression ratio. I was thinking about that yesterday.

I need to post the dyno graph for you guys, but right now I shift at 6500 I believe. To be honest the car was such a handful in the 6 passes I have made, I haven't even tried to dial in shift rpm yet. I was mainly working on short times and getting comfortable.

And for fuel, I just run pump 91-93.
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Originally Posted by Billy1987
I know I wouldn’t want to cut a car like this up but have you thought about using a intake tube like the chris1313 setup . We have a couple local cars that picked up alittle Et and a few mph with it or something similar.
Yes I have ran his ram air setups before. I am not interested in running the prostock ram air he has at the moment, but the non ac ram air is something I already have and will install on the car soon. I am hoping the car picks ups .1-.2 and 1-2mph in the 1/8th from the ram air.
Old 04-21-2021 | 04:25 PM
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I know a full top end kit isn't in the cards but an intake alone, like the MSD, should give a noticable gain.
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Love the car, always good to see another all motor stickshift. I would look into tightening the front end down, some of that travel can cause some ET aswell. What is the suspension in the front?
Old 04-21-2021 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 440_Stroker
I know a full top end kit isn't in the cards but an intake alone, like the MSD, should give a noticable gain.
Oh I'm sure a proper intake combo could be .2 in the 1/8th.
I would love to see what a ported intake/tb combo would do on this choked up motor. Are MSD's > FAST 102? good to 7500 rpm or so? What tb are people running with them usually?

The dyno graph I have was ran up to 7,200 and I will post it soon.
I need to post the cam card I have as well.
Old 04-21-2021 | 05:35 PM
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Love the car, always good to see another all motor stickshift. I would look into tightening the front end down, some of that travel can cause some ET aswell. What is the suspension in the front?
Thank you for the support. You still rockin an all motor stick car?

I definitely need to limit front end travel on the car. I see the cars wasted motion on the launches and go 1.43, 1.41, 1.41, 1.36, 1.32 no problems. I would assume if the fronts stay on the ground, or a lot closer, and the front end doesn't have to fully compress and rebound again by the time I hit 2nd I'd go faster.

The front suspension is Strange double adjustables. I have k member, a arms etc too.

Do you think turning rebound up on the front shocks could hurt my 60ft at all? Should I increase front compression and rebound by the same amounts?
I am conflicted because I am only launching at 4,900 rpms, with a loose front end, but cutting 1.32 & 1.36.
However, I am scared to launch higher because 5500 would've put it on the bumper if I didn't pedal it.
I would imagine if I could launch around 5,500-6,000 rpms, and keep the front end down I would cut a 1.2 60'.
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Torque arm, short or long?
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Originally Posted by FinalCam
Thanks for stopping by and I appreciate the comment. Steve is a really cool guy, and I am thankful for his dedication to stick shift drag racing as well as taking care of this HOSS for over a decade.
Years ago I kept up with your car too. Anyone running 10s cam only with 3 pedals is a solid setup in my book.

If I can keep the car healthy, it will be ripping this year!
Mine should be back out soon! His dedication is now yours! The crown has passed! You need any info or help just PM me. Changing intakes would yield you a nice gain. Or leave it and get some seat time and have some fun!
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Also msd intake and a ram air setup would be nice addition. Can fab up a single pipe that would go to left or right of the grille area. Betting you will trap in the 130s easily enough.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ke-system.html classic old thread. But something similar and looks clean.
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Yeah I have a H/C six speed car in the process of doing a clutch since the monster level 2 I have isnt working well ( could be i didnt shim the slave cylinder correct) I know every setup is different but I picked 2mph going from a unported fast to a Mamo ported fast. As far as suspension I could not give you the correct advise on that lol, I know you want to tighten it. I still run stock SLP bilsteins and they are super stiff, my wifes setup is pretty basic lakewood 50/50 rear and 70/30 upfront sixty foots 1.44-1.46 threw a cam only A4 3300lb setup. I know most of the good stick cars that run and sixty foot good will rec a double adjustable setup. It looks like your on a DR? that is great if your making that work aswell
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ke-system.html classic old thread. But something similar and looks clean.
Hmm.. I will need to be able to switch to something with a filter for the street but I do like the setup on these. Introducing that much airflow when the car is in motion, is there extra fuel added into the tune, say 1-3%?
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Originally Posted by Shadow02SS
Yeah I have a H/C six speed car in the process of doing a clutch since the monster level 2 I have isnt working well ( could be i didnt shim the slave cylinder correct) I know every setup is different but I picked 2mph going from a unported fast to a Mamo ported fast. As far as suspension I could not give you the correct advise on that lol, I know you want to tighten it. I still run stock SLP bilsteins and they are super stiff, my wifes setup is pretty basic lakewood 50/50 rear and 70/30 upfront sixty foots 1.44-1.46 threw a cam only A4 3300lb setup. I know most of the good stick cars that run and sixty foot good will rec a double adjustable setup. It looks like your on a DR? that is great if your making that work aswell
That is awesome, keep me updated when you get the car back out and making passes! Damn you got 2mph just from unported fast to mamo ported fast?

The pictures you see of the car on the street it has a MT DOT tire on it, but I have a set of identical weld rears with rim screws that have a bias ply MT ET Drag on it. I am aware that now the fast stick cars (4 sec to low 5 sec 1/8) are using radials more, but I will probably stick with bias ply tires for now.
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Torque arm, short or long?
Long torque arm I believe. I'll take a picture and post it I am not sure who made the torque arm to be honest.
Old 04-22-2021 | 08:57 AM
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Aright So I am kind of leaning towards the velocity stack ram air style intake. I saw where I can remove half and add a filter for the street. However, I don't wanna remove my slp grille. What if I cutout the horizontal piece of the grille to open the hole up, kept the slp grille and made the velocity stack go through it? How much are the grilles worth?
What do you guys think about this proposal? I circled it in the pic below for a visual.






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Originally Posted by FinalCam
Aright So I am kind of leaning towards the velocity stack ram air style intake. I saw where I can remove half and add a filter for the street. However, I don't wanna remove my slp grille. What if I cutout the horizontal piece of the grille to open the hole up, kept the slp grille and made the velocity stack go through it? How much are the grilles worth?
What do you guys think about this proposal? I circled it in the pic below for a visual.





Parker, I've seen the velocity stack be worth 13rwhp and 6ft lbs on a 418ci setup with cathedrals.

I've also seen a 416ci car with untouched LS3 heads pick up 3 mph in the quarter going to a Chris1313 setup vs a aftermarket air lid .
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
Parker, I've seen the velocity stack be worth 13rwhp and 6ft lbs on a 418ci setup with cathedrals.

I've also seen a 416ci car with untouched LS3 heads pick up 3 mph in the quarter going to a Chris1313 setup vs a aftermarket air lid .
Damn that gives me some serious hope for this little guy then! I am about to post 2 of the dyno graphs I have.

I currently have no ram air on the car.. I'll gladly take 3mph
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So it looks like these were in STD and smoothing 5? Doesn't that buff up my numbers? Car traps 101-102 in the 1/8th and 126-128 in the 1/4 for reference.

Regardless, I don't give a damn about my numbers, I want to optimize my shift points. Is it worth shifting at 7,000 rpm with the current setup?

4-500 rpms past peak HP would be around 66-6700 I believe.




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This car here once was trapping 127 to 128 MPH in the quarter now the traps 130 to 131 plus... its the 416ci untoched LS3 headed car. Again the car have the Chris1313 setup with the exit coming out the center of the grill of the car. Also make sure you are not spinning the rims inside of the tires when you launch the car. It kills momentum doing so...
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28

This car here once was trapping 127 to 128 MPH in the quarter now the traps 130 to 131 plus... its the 416ci untoched LS3 headed car. Again the car have the Chris1313 setup with the exit coming out the center of the grill of the car. Also make sure you are not spinning the rims inside of the tires when you launch the car. It kills momentum doing so...
My tires are screwed to the rims so I should be good there. I have contacted Chris about my setup and he is going to send me some parts and let me make them fit while retaining my SS grille. Track is going to get rained out this Friday so I will try to race again next Friday, April 30th.


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