WeatherGuy

Think I have an idea - get both! Or at least, try to get both worlds . . .

Just got a sweet, custom ratchet shifter for my custom A4. Once I go full manual valvebody (soon), I get:
1) Have to shift, both up and down (sorta like manual)
2) Get instantenous shifts (auto)
3) Get torque converter benefits (auto)
4) Actually have to shift the car at the track (sorta like manual), a bit more than stab and steer
5) Can get the experience of a good clutch dump if I added a transbrake

Some things I don't get with the above setup - risk of missing gears a lot less (unlike manual), and cannot use computer to set shift points (unlike most autos). But still a good compromise.

horist

I prefer autos for a few reasons

1. Chicago traffic
2. grab and steer
3. computers are faster than humans and consistent


Though I'd really like a TH400 w/full manual valve body and trans brake <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> ah well... next year

ONYXSS

Haven't read this whole thread. Just the last page, and I'll chime in anyway with my .02

I give a lot of respect to the M6 guys. Whether they have a car that rates in the top ET list or not. Their job is so much harder. And yes, it takes a lot more skill. Not necessarily in the shifting (although that's important), but in the launch. The launch is what matters the most. For us A4's, the launch is one of two things. Spin or no spin. For the manual guys, it's a skill that's really hard to perfect.

This thread shouldn't be about who is better. We're all here for the same reason. But in my book, any M6 guy that achieves the same ET as a comparibly equipped A4 gets a big pat on the back. Cause it's way harder.

AlienDroid

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by One Monkey:
<strong> I got in on this very late and did not read all the post!!

but here's my opinion. A4 cars run faster most of the time. that's just because of how easy it's too set one up. there are so much auto cars running out there, and so much convertors that prove them self.

But if a manual car owner figuers out the clutch and sets it up right, The auto guys would have too go get a T-Brake too even stand a chance and there would still get the *** handed.

The SAM car is about the only example I could point out in the F-body world, since no one else have gone as far too get a clutch too work. but it proves it by it's 1.29 60ft 99% of that is the clutch.

there's no auto car even close too that. and then we all know after the 60ft the manual cars have the advantage. If it dose not it's not the car it's the driver. Ask all the A4 guys that street race with me and figuer I was on gas going down the track mod for mod. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
laters
Brent </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They are planning to drop in an auto tranny (one with a torque converter) I don't know which one, but they want to go even faster.

AlonzoVersion 1.0

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by OBSSSD@work:
<strong> The MTI car was a 383 not even a stock 346. Show me the time slips for an M6 car (346ci) going at least 10.9X

For every 1 of those I'll show you a bundle with an A4 car on the stock 4L60E and the stock 10-bolt. It doesn't cost over $2,000 to rebuild a 4L60E unless you use a high priced forum vendor like FLP. I'm going to do mine for a few hundred bucks including labor and it will hold 500rwhp no problem. For now, however, it is holding just fine.

The A4 bashing gets a little old around here sometimes. Just because someone is driving one doesn't make the M6 person a better driver.

I'm done now..

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am with you on that one.I dont know where the $2000 price tag comes from.I get get a rebuild kit with everything including shift kit for $450 shipped to my door.Installed for $300 sense I cant do trannys.Actually I can get it cheaper from Daaco transmissions (parts) but anyways I prefer an auto because it is easier to drive and more consistent when it comes to drag racing.It does take more skill to race a manual.Manuals are better street cars gas mileage,brakes,etc... and you have to pay more attention on the road with a manual also which was stated earlier.I will say this though I have yet to see anyone outshift a slomatic.If you can just flat out drive then manual but if you cant then auto with a big stall will take care of that.In the end it doesnt matter what you drive no one is gonna say well he/she had a manual or auto so its okay that you lost."It doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile,winnings winning."I love that cheesy *** movie. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

H82BBad

in ls-1 powered f-body's auto's are quicker.

Reason I say that is wade is at the top of the list.