JASON

I'm cool with every thing but the ET part. You guys are saying who post the BEST ET OF THE RACE WINS? If that is what your saying thats cool but I'm out, I don't want to drive 14 hrs, line up on side of someone (who may or may not be able to drive, react) TREE them, get to the finish (with maybe a slower ET and LOSE!) Thats not drag racing, the first to the finsih wins!! I may have a slower car, but I want the chance to kick some azz!
Jason D <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

Bob Cosby

Jason...as it pertains to out little group, then yes, it is an ET challenge. It started as a way for a group of us to get together in one place and see who really is quickest. I don't see changing that. However, if you'll click on the link above, you'll see where there are several classes that you can run in at the main event itself.

I don't know if I want to open this can of worms, but if the organizers of the North/South Shootout wanted to actually make this a class, then I suppose there could be some sort of eliminations. We could potentially have a "winner" of the "Internet ET" and also a class winner (3 qualifying rounds, Sportsman ladder, Pro Tree, single eliminations).

However, as soon as you do that, the rules get thrown to the wolves again, people start in with the "I want this and I want that" routine, everybody wants the rules to favor them, blah blah blah. I'll gladly head the organization of a class such as this, but if so, the rules stay as is, and, of course, the guys putting the main race together have to acquiese.

RUQWIKR

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Y2K Blackbird:
<strong>Bob, those look good to me. Lets make it happen <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bob, now I do have a WARM feeling in my pants. Can I throw my name into the hat as a potential invitee?

I may just try to line up a stock / new motor for this one...pull my heads / cam motor out and put the other in. My car has the interior in it, 6-pt, etc. Thanks.

RAGEman

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Wow, that would be awesome if Y2K Blackbird and RUQWIKR both came. I still disagree with the lack of a weight minimum, but I'll still race! <---notice compromise

Definitely agree with the "Internet ET" race. If we could have a bolt-on class in addition to our "Internet ET Challenge", that would absolutely rock. I may just have too much fun. Getting to finally meet and race against the top dawgs in our little bolt-on world would just be sweet. I've already put in for three days vacation at work. So PLEASE everyone show up.

Bob, unless I'm just retarded, I missed the part in your 2nd rule posting that mentioned bumper supports. What have we decided on those?

Bob Cosby

RUQWIKR ...bring it out! Be advised that the motor has to be as delivered from the factory stock. Not a rebuild, and no work (at all) done to the heads, cam not moved, etc. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Rageman...tks for compromising. I did too, as I would have preferred A/C, P/S, etc. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> As far as I am concerned, bumper supports and such are a dead issue. If you have em, great. If you don't, great. Hell I might even take mine out now.

Let's race. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

RUQWIKR

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bob Cosby:
<strong>RUQWIKR ...bring it out! Be advised that the motor has to be as delivered from the factory stock. Not a rebuild, and no work (at all) done to the heads, cam not moved, etc. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Rageman...tks for compromising. I did too, as I would have preferred A/C, P/S, etc. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> As far as I am concerned, bumper supports and such are a dead issue. If you have em, great. If you don't, great. Hell I might even take mine out now.

Let's race. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You bet...I just don't want to swap back on my stock heads and cam. My shortblock is dead stock. That said, I may just put a stock, new longblock in it and bolt my stock intake on.

Heck, I've got the original trans fluid in the car except what went in the new converter.

If not, I am planning on coming and at least running the brackets.

JASON

No matter what I'm there, I raced two classes at the Thunder race. I just think a drag race would be fun too!!
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CamaroCain

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> What: An ET shootout between the quickest of the 'internally-stock' M6 LS1 F-body's, the quickest of the 'internally-stock' A4 LS1 F-body's, and the quickest of the 'internally-stock' DOHC 4.6 Cobra's. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Time to add more bolt-ons to the car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
This sounds fun, except for the part where I know I will get my *** kicked by you bigger stall guys (Lane). Anyone want to help a girl out, post your sigs, or your full list of mods, so I can see what else I need to do? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Also include whether you have tunning done or not. TIA

Lynda

Lane

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Can we give Bob a hand! :applaud: <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

I'm with Jason on having a true drag race, but I don't care if it's just an ET thing either. Both would be nice though..

And I guess as long as you're photo friendly interior-wise, a minimum weight isn't an issue with me. Since that's(interior) where it seems to get really crazy..

And just to be sure - not having a cage is not an issue there when running mid 11's?. I plan on having one by then, but...

Bob Cosby

Lane & Jason....if ya'll want a "true" drag race, then petition the event organizers for a class. I suggest a private e-mail, as they may have issues with the event that they would rather not publically discuss.

I'll volunteer to run it, with the rules we have outlined here. However, they have to buy off on the idea.

As for 11's and such....Beech Bend is an NHRA track. Take that at face value. However, I have NEVER EVER seen them care about rollbars for 11 second cars, or even ask about them. I hope to have a bar by then myself, but if I don't, I'm not worried.

How's that? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

RAGEman

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Mods at the time of my best run(s):

Fast Toys Ram-Air Kit
Hacked-up lower airbox
Direct-Flo airbox lid
Granatelli MAF
RAGEman-ported TB
TB bypass
160 T-stat
HPPIII
ASP underdrive crank pulley
Pro 5.0 shifter
Grotyohann 1-3/4" longtube headers
Grotyohann 3" off-road Y-pipe
Borla catback exhaust (wide open)
PS bypass via short belt
Polyurethane bushings in the rear LCA's, torque arm mount, and transmission mount
26" x 11.5" x 16" ET Strets on 16" x 8" silver T/A wheels
165R15 Volkswagen tires on 15" x 3.5" Draglites

DA was good (wish I could find out which of the most commonly-used DA calculators were accurate). SLIGHT tailwind. Track prep was top-notch. Raceweight was 3200 lbs.

Upcoming upgrades include a lighter (and hopefully better-performing) exhaust (true duals with Dynomax bullets and turndowns), a 4.56-geared 31-spline Ford 9" rear with a spool, RAM iron disc clutch setup, 28" x 10.5" x 15" ET Drags w/Draglites, a carbon fiber or perhaps metal matrix driveshaft, and perhaps even a slight weight-loss program. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Bob Cosby

Hehe. Good idea to post complete mod list! Here's mine...

Densecharger CAI
Ported stock MAF meter
March underdrive pulleys
JBA "Shorty" headers
Dr Gas off-road X-pipe
Magnaflow Mufflers
Autologic Chip
Aluminum flywheel
MAC Shifter
8.8 Rear w/4.56 gears, Locker, 31 spline axles
HPM adjustable control arms
26x10 Hoosier slicks on Centerline 15x8.5 Convo Pro rims
165/50 fronts on Centerline 15x4 Convo Pro rims
Baer Serious Street brakes (need for the 15" fronts)

DA for my 11.67 was ~+200. No appreciable wind. Good track prep. Weight ~3230 lbs.

Planned upgrades include...

- Intake Swap
- "Real" headers
- Tubular Front end pieces
- QA1 adjustable shocks/struts
- Fiberglass hood
- T5 tranny w/scattershield
- Possible ignition upgrade (Plasma Booster)

Skelton

Bob, those new planned mods might be 2 tenths or better. This will be fun <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Bob Cosby

Perhaps. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

JS12

Hey Allen, I hope you are out to prove something to those a4 guys. i am not having much changed since my last run so i will be running around the same times.

FLP longtubes and ORY
moser 12 bolt w/3.73's, 33 spline
fast toys ram air
S2 ported TB
control arm relocation brackets
BMR tubular SFC's
eibach pro-kit
ASP pulley
short belt
whisper lid
ls1 edit (ie timing, codes deleted, A/F messed with) no dyno tuning
MT ET drags 26x10.5

<small>[ December 20, 2002, 03:35 PM: Message edited by: JS12 ]</small>

MacGyver

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Sounds like a fun race. I have one question about the transmission rules. Would a TH400 that has a gear vendors overdrive installed be legal? By your rules I think it would as you just state that the car must have a functioning OD.

Will

The Juggernaut

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I will be as light as possible.
No cage(?)
I will add a drag passenger seat and lightweight carpet.
Raceweight 3120ish.
Maybe I'll throw some drag brakes on it.3080ish?

I DON'T PLAN ON LOSING. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
(unless I break something)

All the bolt-ons
All the suspension.

I will fast until I'm 125#.
Raceweight-3055.

Yes,I am intense.

BTW-Am I invited to this shindig?

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

JS12

Sean, if the texas boys go we(someone) will walk away the fastest <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Terry Burger

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Transmission: OD transmission required - and OD must be functional. T56/T45/T5/T3550 all acceptable. Any street-type, single-disc, non-adjustable clutch acceptable. For A4's, any torque converter allowed, shift kits allowed.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What's wrong with a TH350? With 3.23s a TH350 turns less RPM than a 4L60E w/ 4.10s! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Terry Burger

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Also what if you drop a take out LS6 engine in the car? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />