Another new best in Stock Z06 - 11.617@ 117.67
12-23-2002, 11:55 AM
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Another new best in Stock Z06 - 11.617@ 117.67 I had been out to the track twice since my last personal best. Sunday the 15th and Friday the 20th. Sunday the track was hooking very very hard. I had my ET Streets set to 20psi, and the car was dead hooking on 6600 rpm launches. The car was bogging on the launch, so my times suffered a bit. Also, the temps and humidity were up a bit.
My first pass, as I said, the car bogged a bit, and I missed 4th. So, I just put it into neutral and coasted through.
60' - 1.650
330 - 4.902
1/8 - 7.565
MPH - 93.09
1000 - 9.850
1/4 - 101.72
The second pass the car was at around 196 degrees. The tires were still at 20psi, and the car bogged again on the launch. This time I managed to find all the gears.
60 - 1.685
330 - 4.965
1/8 - 7.642
mph - 92.74
1000 - 9.932
1/4 - 11.866
mph - 116.71
The last pass of the night was a bit better. The air had cooled down just a bit. The car spun just a little on this run, but still bogged more than it had the other day. This would have been a pretty good night for radial tire passes.
60 ' - 1.670
330 - 4.897
1/8 - 7.560
mph - 93.00
1000 - 9.847
1/4 - 11.783
mph - 116.57
I went came back out on Sunday to see how things were going to be. The weather looked to be good. Cool dry air with a good -DA. Everyone else had the same idea. I got to the track a 7:30 it was 9:47 before I got my first pass.
There was one other problem. Of my 4 passes I only got 3 of my timeslips. One of them was completely the wrong slip. So, although I had 4 passes I only have three slips to post. I will be getting the other two from the track after it opens back up.
I was at 20 psi in the ET streets, to get a feel for how the track was going to hook. When I launched on the first pass, I could feel the car spinning hard. I feathered the throttle and got the wheelpsin taken car of. The rest of the pass was alright, but it told me the track prep wasn't as good as the other night. That of course would work to my advantage. That pass was good, except the 60' was of from the wheelspin.
60 - 1.777
330 - 5.005
1/8 - 7.640
mph - 94.05
1000 - 9.901
1/4 - 11.814
mph - 117.98
The second pass I was set to race a Millennium Yellow 2002 Z06 with a ProCharger on it. I was running my fans in the lanes, and disaster struck. I fired the car to drive up to the head of the lane, and I shut it off. When I went to re-fire the car all I got was click,click,click... Dead battery. Some of my friends were nice enough to push start me, but they wouldn't let me make a pass without the car starting on its own. They made me kill the car, which of course wouldn't restart. Now, I am up by the burnout box, the car won't start, and everyone who is going through the water box is spraying my car. I finally got them to allow me to push the car back. We push started it again, it fired immediately, and I parked it for a second to let it charge. I walked up to the starter, and he told me to hold on for a second, and he would go ahead and put right back in the lane, so I didn't have to go back through the line.
It just so happened I got lined up with LovintheC5. The ET Streets were set down to 16psi, but the car was getting up in temperature from sitting there idling. The pass was Ok, except that in the top of 3rd, the car made a stupid move on me. It really hasn't done that to me on the ET Streets. I have had that before, in some of my other cars. Rather than mess with A pass that was sub-par anyway, I just pushed in the clutch, stuck in neutral and coasted across the line.
60 - 1.739
330 - 5.050
1/8 - 7.721
mph - 93.17
1000 - 10.007
1/4 - 12.172
mph - 97.69
The air was cooling down, but the south wind was blowing. The gulf air was driving the humidity up. When I got there, the dew point was at 27^. But now, condensation was forming on my car.
I pulled the car back in the lanes and talked with several Z owners there was a guy who is a regular forum lurker who was out playing with his MY 2002. Two guys with an EB 2003s who I talked with, and of course the guy with the procharger equipped car. Another new owner had his brand new 2003 MY car that he had just picked up in Kansas City and drove to Houston. It still had paper tags on it... We talked about launch RPM, tire pressure, etc... I tried to fill them in on what worked for me, and what to expect on your first few times out, and what the car can do with a bit of practice.
We sat in the lanes while the cleanup crews worked on yet another oildown. I finally got around for my next pass. For this pass, I did a really good burnout. A really long, smoky one. I tached the car up, and turned her loose. I was rewarded with some good wheelspin, but the car really moving out good. I picked up my timeslip and was happy to see that the car had 60' its best so far, and that resulted in a new best.
60 - 1.622
330 - 4.804
1/8 - 7.437
mph - 94.08
1000 - 9.700
1/4 - 11.617
mph - 117.67
Right before I made my pass I heard that the lanes were closing in 10 minutes. So right after my pass, I came back around and got in the end of the line. Right after I did, they closed the lanes. My last pass was with a Ford Lightning. I got his slip, which I didn't notice until I had left the track. So, I don't know if it was better or worse than the 11.617. But i will post back once I get the results from the track...
A couple of thoughts, I know that many folks feel like you need 200 miles or some such number to get the full power of any modification. I just want to point out that I completely cleared my computer (dead battery), and after one pass plus driving back up the return road, my car made the best pass it has made to date. I think at this point I am going to have to disagree with all the driving time needed to see an improvement. I suspect you could install a cold air intake, and if you so desired, clear the computer. After one of two passes you should see all the performance gain you are going to see...
Perhaps if I ever get a CAI, I can check this out at the track and post the results here.
Again it was good meeting new owners, and folks who are making their first few trips out to the track.
My first pass, as I said, the car bogged a bit, and I missed 4th. So, I just put it into neutral and coasted through.
60' - 1.650
330 - 4.902
1/8 - 7.565
MPH - 93.09
1000 - 9.850
1/4 - 101.72
The second pass the car was at around 196 degrees. The tires were still at 20psi, and the car bogged again on the launch. This time I managed to find all the gears.
60 - 1.685
330 - 4.965
1/8 - 7.642
mph - 92.74
1000 - 9.932
1/4 - 11.866
mph - 116.71
The last pass of the night was a bit better. The air had cooled down just a bit. The car spun just a little on this run, but still bogged more than it had the other day. This would have been a pretty good night for radial tire passes.
60 ' - 1.670
330 - 4.897
1/8 - 7.560
mph - 93.00
1000 - 9.847
1/4 - 11.783
mph - 116.57
I went came back out on Sunday to see how things were going to be. The weather looked to be good. Cool dry air with a good -DA. Everyone else had the same idea. I got to the track a 7:30 it was 9:47 before I got my first pass.
There was one other problem. Of my 4 passes I only got 3 of my timeslips. One of them was completely the wrong slip. So, although I had 4 passes I only have three slips to post. I will be getting the other two from the track after it opens back up.
I was at 20 psi in the ET streets, to get a feel for how the track was going to hook. When I launched on the first pass, I could feel the car spinning hard. I feathered the throttle and got the wheelpsin taken car of. The rest of the pass was alright, but it told me the track prep wasn't as good as the other night. That of course would work to my advantage. That pass was good, except the 60' was of from the wheelspin.
60 - 1.777
330 - 5.005
1/8 - 7.640
mph - 94.05
1000 - 9.901
1/4 - 11.814
mph - 117.98
The second pass I was set to race a Millennium Yellow 2002 Z06 with a ProCharger on it. I was running my fans in the lanes, and disaster struck. I fired the car to drive up to the head of the lane, and I shut it off. When I went to re-fire the car all I got was click,click,click... Dead battery. Some of my friends were nice enough to push start me, but they wouldn't let me make a pass without the car starting on its own. They made me kill the car, which of course wouldn't restart. Now, I am up by the burnout box, the car won't start, and everyone who is going through the water box is spraying my car. I finally got them to allow me to push the car back. We push started it again, it fired immediately, and I parked it for a second to let it charge. I walked up to the starter, and he told me to hold on for a second, and he would go ahead and put right back in the lane, so I didn't have to go back through the line.
It just so happened I got lined up with LovintheC5. The ET Streets were set down to 16psi, but the car was getting up in temperature from sitting there idling. The pass was Ok, except that in the top of 3rd, the car made a stupid move on me. It really hasn't done that to me on the ET Streets. I have had that before, in some of my other cars. Rather than mess with A pass that was sub-par anyway, I just pushed in the clutch, stuck in neutral and coasted across the line.
60 - 1.739
330 - 5.050
1/8 - 7.721
mph - 93.17
1000 - 10.007
1/4 - 12.172
mph - 97.69
The air was cooling down, but the south wind was blowing. The gulf air was driving the humidity up. When I got there, the dew point was at 27^. But now, condensation was forming on my car.
I pulled the car back in the lanes and talked with several Z owners there was a guy who is a regular forum lurker who was out playing with his MY 2002. Two guys with an EB 2003s who I talked with, and of course the guy with the procharger equipped car. Another new owner had his brand new 2003 MY car that he had just picked up in Kansas City and drove to Houston. It still had paper tags on it... We talked about launch RPM, tire pressure, etc... I tried to fill them in on what worked for me, and what to expect on your first few times out, and what the car can do with a bit of practice.
We sat in the lanes while the cleanup crews worked on yet another oildown. I finally got around for my next pass. For this pass, I did a really good burnout. A really long, smoky one. I tached the car up, and turned her loose. I was rewarded with some good wheelspin, but the car really moving out good. I picked up my timeslip and was happy to see that the car had 60' its best so far, and that resulted in a new best.
60 - 1.622
330 - 4.804
1/8 - 7.437
mph - 94.08
1000 - 9.700
1/4 - 11.617
mph - 117.67
Right before I made my pass I heard that the lanes were closing in 10 minutes. So right after my pass, I came back around and got in the end of the line. Right after I did, they closed the lanes. My last pass was with a Ford Lightning. I got his slip, which I didn't notice until I had left the track. So, I don't know if it was better or worse than the 11.617. But i will post back once I get the results from the track...
A couple of thoughts, I know that many folks feel like you need 200 miles or some such number to get the full power of any modification. I just want to point out that I completely cleared my computer (dead battery), and after one pass plus driving back up the return road, my car made the best pass it has made to date. I think at this point I am going to have to disagree with all the driving time needed to see an improvement. I suspect you could install a cold air intake, and if you so desired, clear the computer. After one of two passes you should see all the performance gain you are going to see...
Perhaps if I ever get a CAI, I can check this out at the track and post the results here.
Again it was good meeting new owners, and folks who are making their first few trips out to the track.
12-23-2002, 04:08 PM
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Re: Another new best in Stock Z06 - 11.617@ 117.67 WOW,i've seen three or four 02 zo6's at the track they were also on et streets one on a slick and none of them ran like your car. they were around 12.0-12.3's,why is your car so much faster?do you have any mods? congrats to ya , mike c.
12-23-2002, 08:05 PM
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Re: Another new best in Stock Z06 - 11.617@ 117.67 no, he doesn't have any mods, thats why his title says "stock z06.." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
man, thats incredible J-rod. Congrats!
If I wouldn't have been out of town, I'd have been there. Jan 3 can't come soon enough. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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man, thats incredible J-rod. Congrats!
If I wouldn't have been out of town, I'd have been there. Jan 3 can't come soon enough. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Another new best in Stock Z06 - 11.617@ 117.67 congrats again man!!! you keep making me want a Z06 now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Another new best in Stock Z06 - 11.617@ 117.67 J-Rod:
Congrats. Your making the Z06 Crowd really Stand out! (at least the fast ones) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Congrats. Your making the Z06 Crowd really Stand out! (at least the fast ones) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
12-24-2002, 12:42 AM
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Re: Another new best in Stock Z06 - 11.617@ 117.67 Conrag't again J-Rod <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> A couple of thoughts, I know that many folks feel like you need 200 miles or some such number to get the full power of any modification. I just want to point out that I completely cleared my computer (dead battery), and after one pass plus driving back up the return road, my car made the best pass it has made to date. I think at this point I am going to have to disagree with all the driving time needed to see an improvement. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's funny that you should mention this....what is really interesting is that my car dyno's the best right after reflashing the very same program that is already in it at the time....go figure!
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> A couple of thoughts, I know that many folks feel like you need 200 miles or some such number to get the full power of any modification. I just want to point out that I completely cleared my computer (dead battery), and after one pass plus driving back up the return road, my car made the best pass it has made to date. I think at this point I am going to have to disagree with all the driving time needed to see an improvement. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's funny that you should mention this....what is really interesting is that my car dyno's the best right after reflashing the very same program that is already in it at the time....go figure!
12-31-2002, 10:57 AM
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Re: Another new best in Stock Z06 - 11.617@ 117.67 I posted that information since I have seen numerous posts where someone will change the airfilter on their car and folks will all chime in and say to reset the computer, and that that it will take 200 miles of driving for the computer to relearn. I just waned to point out the computer will re-learn much quicker, and doesn't require 200 miles of driving after a computer reset...
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12-31-2002, 03:41 PM
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Re: Another new best in Stock Z06 - 11.617@ 117.67 Congrats J-Rod ... you sure can lay down the power!
mike c. ... a lot of it has to do with J-Rods ability to drive. Real good drivers get impressive numbers with the 02 Z06s, but they are hard to launch. Last year I took my 02 Z06 to Atco and ran 12.08 @ 117.73 with a 1.98 60' time, completely showroom stock on stock rubber and with the paper air filter intact. And others, like Blu-By-U have run similar numbers totally stock. So to me it is very understandable that if J-Rod puts on ET Streets and cuts his 60' time down into the 1.6 range, he easily could run 11.61 like he has. Actually for every tenth you take off your 60' time, you will gain two tenths at the the other end. I will take my ZO6 to the track again in a few weeks and see if I can get an 11.9x out of it in all stock condition. If so, then I will put some ET Streets on and see how much difference it will make. A lot, I bet. I would bet heavily that those other ZO6 owners with slicks and ET Streets that you saw were not launching above 5000rpm.
Mickey
02 Black ZO6 ...... all stock
01 Black Formula Firehawk..... all stock
98 Black Z28 6M ...370" LS1..10.90@124.89 NA
427" LS6 Solid Roller now
mike c. ... a lot of it has to do with J-Rods ability to drive. Real good drivers get impressive numbers with the 02 Z06s, but they are hard to launch. Last year I took my 02 Z06 to Atco and ran 12.08 @ 117.73 with a 1.98 60' time, completely showroom stock on stock rubber and with the paper air filter intact. And others, like Blu-By-U have run similar numbers totally stock. So to me it is very understandable that if J-Rod puts on ET Streets and cuts his 60' time down into the 1.6 range, he easily could run 11.61 like he has. Actually for every tenth you take off your 60' time, you will gain two tenths at the the other end. I will take my ZO6 to the track again in a few weeks and see if I can get an 11.9x out of it in all stock condition. If so, then I will put some ET Streets on and see how much difference it will make. A lot, I bet. I would bet heavily that those other ZO6 owners with slicks and ET Streets that you saw were not launching above 5000rpm.
Mickey
02 Black ZO6 ...... all stock
01 Black Formula Firehawk..... all stock
98 Black Z28 6M ...370" LS1..10.90@124.89 NA
427" LS6 Solid Roller now