Ws6Luvr

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What should guys with a Stage II heads (GTP), very aggressive cam (Pig Cam) and a GOOD converter (Yank/TCI) be running? My guess is high 10's at around 122, seem about right?
What size Yank converter do y'all recommend? John C., your input would be invaluable here, along with Patrick G's....Can someone also post a list of the A4 list where it shows the top 5-8 cars on that list all running a YANK converter please?

Thanks a ton!
Nitin

Top Fuel

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Yank PT4400-4600 is the most common for the good running H/C A4's.

weight reduction and gears are also very important to running those high 10's. My 3400# raceweight and 3.73's are the 2 primary reasons I feel that I have not ran 10's yet, along w/ shiftpoints that still need to be worked out.

Now, I'm not saying that you can't run 10's at 3400#'s, but you'll need at least a 4.10 gear. To my knowledge, I believe that John C. is the only H/C A4 to run 10's w/ less than a 4.10 gear.

later,
Steve

JS

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Couldnt of said it better,Topfuel...
Parts are one ingredient to this recipe...

Traction and a good DA along w/3300lbs will reward u with a 10 Sec pass.This is of course a stock shortblock recipe using a hyd. roller.

With a rebuilt 346 thats balanced and running better rods bolts,pistons u can shift higher so that has alittle advantage to camselection and rpm....

U are on the right track.Get her light and find a good track,10's will come with your setup.

JS

Ws6Luvr

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the advice isn't for me, as i would never stray away from my beloved manual! lol It's for a friend...he's not running anywhere near what he should be...

nitin

Raughammer

Verter? YANK TP4400. That was an easy one.
Heads and Pig?
Well if everything else is good. Yea high 10's at 122 would be doable.
If all the intangibles are there.

Times list you requested?

Raughammer 838 10.663 124.020 1.38 3200 -1569 98 Z28 Y Y Y N/A 346 A4 Yank Thruster Pro 4400
Details 3 Angie 43 10.815 123.560 1.46 3060 -95 99 Camaro Z28 Y Y Y N/A 346 A4 PT4600
Details 4 Jantzer98SS 1110 10.828 125.128 1.47 3050 946 98 Camaro SS Y Y Y N/A 346 A4 TP4400
Details 5 Terry Burger 156 10.870 127.100 1.56 3220 1000 01 Camaro Z28 Y Y N N/A 346 A4 Yank PT4400
Details 6 ONYXSS 298 10.940 123.700 1.52 3400 0000 2000 Camaro SS Y Y Y N/A 346 A4 UT4800
Details 7 Mike Hoffpauir 959 10.980 121.440 1.45 3300 -1700 00 Camaro Z28 Y N N N/A 346 A4 Yank TP4400
Details 8 jfm 00895 11.044 121.470 1.51 3350 -800 99 SS Camaro Y Y Y N/A 346 A4 Yank TP 4400
Details 9 SSteveL 5465 11.049 124.290 1.61 3461 615 98 Camaro SS Y Y Y N/A 422 A4 Yank PT3900
Details 10 TXCAMSS 534 11.068 121.090 1.46 3480 -250 01 Camaro SS Y Y N N/A 346 A4 Yank ST3500
Details 11 JS 148 11.147 122.010 1.47 3459 -234 Y2K WS6 Y Y Y N/A 346 A4 VIG 3800------>Now running PT4500
Details 12 Pro Stock John 003 11.150 120.300 1.53 3650 200 98 Formula Y Y Y N/A 422 A4 Yank TP4400E
Details 13 2002nhraformula 6251 11.174 122.200 1.59 3560 -100 2002 nhra formula Y Y N N/A 346 A4 yank tp 4400
Details 14 Paul @ Thunder 1243 11.180 119.590 1.44 3650 0000 99 Camaro Z28 Y Y Y N/A 346 A4 Yank UT4800/ now PT4400
Details 15 Top Fuel 117 11.192 121.040 1.45 3418 -362 00 Camaro Z28 Y Y Y N/A 346 A4 Yank PT4400


Later amigo.

Ws6Luvr

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bad *** john! thanks for the info patna!

YANK RULES ALL !

nitin

LittleBoyBlu99

I drive a 99 C5 a4 coupe with 5point roll bar no wt reduction 3.42gear, MTI H/C B1 114lb cam,Yank SY4000.Best 1/4mi 11.250 ,mph 120.57 ,1/8mi 7.16,mph 98.06 ,60ft 1.58. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Ws6Luvr

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how driveable are the 4000+ stalls from yank? thanks.

Silvr98z28

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ws6Luvr:
<strong> how driveable are the 4000+ stalls from yank? thanks. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not nearly as bad as you would think.
Mine is still streetable with air cond. ect.
The suspension set up to drag race is much worse than dealing with the stall.

RAGEman

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I don't know, Nitin. According to Clark, the 3500 would blow the 4400 out of the water!!!

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

rnr27band1

what is the pig cam? what are the specs and who makes it?

RUQWIKR

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10.72 125.69, 10.76 (spun worse) 126.20, 1.462 and 1.490 60'. Weight ~3300, TP4400, 4.11's. Stock bottom end.

Mike Hoffpauir

TEXASCAMSS disproves the gear theory. His MTI H/C ST3500 3.23 car has made several 10.90 passes at 3450+ raceweight.

Angie from Thunder racing has also run in the tens with less than a 4.10. She has 3.73's, a 3020 raceweight, and some 10.8x passes under her belt.


rnr, the "pig cam" is a big-ole 226/226 cam. It is ground by Cam motion. Several people have gone fast with it.

RUQWIKR

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mike Hoffpauir:
<strong> TEXASCAMSS disproves the gear theory. His MTI H/C ST3500 3.23 car has made several 10.90 passes at 3450+ raceweight.

Angie from Thunder racing has also run in the tens with less than a 4.10. She has 3.73's, a 3020 raceweight, and some 10.8x passes under her belt.


rnr, the "pig cam" is a big-ole 226/226 cam. It is ground by Cam motion. Several people have gone fast with it. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'd love to be 300#'s lighter (3300 vs. 3020).

Is Angie running 26" slicks with the 3.73's? The pics kind of look that way but the mods list does not say. If so, that's about the same gearing vs. 4.10/4.11's with 28" slicks, especially considering the additional growth of the 28's.

When the snow finally melts up here, I might be a bit quicker yet, still with the same combo. Let's just say my car may have been seen recently at a local Weight Watchers meeting, yet, it'll look the same as it did (seats, interior, 6-pt, radio head, hood, etc.). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

TXCAMSS

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Mike is right. It does not take a monster cam, monster stall or monster gears to step into the 10s. Those may make it easier, but not absolutely required. I stayed with my stock 3.23s for durability and they just work very well with the Baby ST3500 Yank converter. No pig cam here just that itty bitty C1 "John Campbell" cam. Don't think I didn't want to go bigger , cause I did but, boy I'm glad I didn't. The combo is extremely streetable for my wifes' daily driver and she does not like it when she has to drive my truck.lol. There are a lot of little details that contribute to getting in the 10s. Good traction and good air sure help a lot. Those 1.44 60 fts need a good track prep to be possible. Good luck on your quest for 10s.

James

John C- you need to update my times since you were there.I the sig. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ February 04, 2003, 08:02 PM: Message edited by: TXCAMSS ]</small>

Top Fuel

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well, I sure stuck my foot in my mouth about the 4.10 gear thing, didn't I. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Lets just say you have to make sure your cam, stall, and gears compliment each other. TXCAMSS's combo obviously compliments itself pretty well. IMO, Its one of the most impressive cars on the board. His combo works because all of the parts work together in a nice tight rpm range. The small cam, small stall, small gear combo should work more efficiently than say a TR230/224(big), ST3500(small), 3.73(medium)combo. Because James's combo runs from where 4800-6000?? and hes putting good power to the ground the whole time, while combo #2 is going from 4800-6600or6700? and what the TR230 really doesn't start to shine until where 5900? So your doing nothing but wasting ET and MPH having to wait 1100rpms after a shift until you start making power. I hope that made sense. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

later,
Steve

Joe99SS

I think I am going to prove the "can't run 10's without a gear" theory is correct after finally giving up on trying to prove it wrong... <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
I'm currently at 11.04 @ 122 with a 1.46 short time using a TP4400 and stock 10-bolt with 3.23's... The rear is starting to make some noise after our track rental Sunday and so the 12-bolt/3.73's will be going in before my next trip to the track... We'll see! Oh yeah, raceweight on a certified CAT scale is 3480...

Silvr98z28

Hey Raugh forgot about me.
ARE Stage 2 H/C, A-4 Yank 4400, Strange 4:10
Best of 10.99 @ 123.37 with a 1.48 short time. Weight was 3380 and DA was only -500. If I decide to drop the weight I think I can give Raugh a run for his money with the new cam just installed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Just need to get the snow off the track.

TransAmaniac

Forgot about me too!

I'm running what your asking about.
GTP S/2 heads with the Pig Cam (226/226/591/591 112lsa)
YANK ST3500
Best pass so far is 11.34 at 121 with a 60ft of 1.62.

All that is at a race weight of 3600!!! STOCK intake and my shift points had still not been adjusted to take advantage of the cam. Also, earlier that day I had a 1.58 60ft (E.T. Streets).

I will be throwing on an LS6 intake and a bigger converter (probably a Pheonix 4200). Hopefully that will be enough for a 10.9

TransAmaniac

I don't know what STR yet.
Gotta look into that. Probably 2.5