I need some Pro Tree advice
02-10-2003, 08:41 PM
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I need some Pro Tree advice I plan on running the 12 index at the SBSO.The problem is I have only ran once on a pro tree, and it was'nt pretty. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> Any tips,tricks, or advice yall can share would be greatly appreciated.
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02-11-2003, 07:31 AM
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice as soon as you see the tree light up, hammer on it. it may seem as though you are going to red light, but you will get an awesome reaction time. it works for me all the time.
02-11-2003, 08:10 AM
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice There's really no advice to give... You should be off at the first flash of amber you see on the tree.
You'll have a tough time trying to cut a light if you're footbraking the car. If you're leaving off a button, you should be able to cut a good light.
Is it a .400 or .500 tree?
You'll have a tough time trying to cut a light if you're footbraking the car. If you're leaving off a button, you should be able to cut a good light.
Is it a .400 or .500 tree?
02-11-2003, 08:49 AM
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice It is .500 light and I will be foot braking it.Any body know what kind of light it will take to be competitive?
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02-11-2003, 02:51 PM
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice Watch the Top amber light(the one just below
the staging lights)Stage fairly deep.
As soon as you see it,hammer it.
Pro tree is .400 and sportsman tree is .500.
Or is there a different system I don't know
about?
Think of it this way-
Try to get a redlight. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
the staging lights)Stage fairly deep.
As soon as you see it,hammer it.
Pro tree is .400 and sportsman tree is .500.
Or is there a different system I don't know
about?
Think of it this way-
Try to get a redlight. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
02-11-2003, 04:27 PM
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice I can't help much with the Auto. Sorry, and good luck.
01-Z..there are actually .400 AND .500 Pro Trees. It is easier to redlight with the .500 tree (obviously), so you might not want to stage as deep as you otherwise might.
01-Z..there are actually .400 AND .500 Pro Trees. It is easier to redlight with the .500 tree (obviously), so you might not want to stage as deep as you otherwise might.
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice i have only run on .400 pro trees, so cant help much on the .500s
with a footbrake auto, just stage real deep and go the instant you see amber. youll still probably not get a real great light
if you have a transbrake or clutch you can do pretty good on a pro tree depending how fast your chassis/suspension reacts. a couple years ago with a 6 speed i would shallow stage, dump clutch full throttle when amber lit and cut decent lights
with my new suspension combo and an Art Carr Rebel 'brake in my th400, even if a stage as shallow as possible and let go the instant it goes yellow i cut .340 lights. so for right now im having to wait a tad and try not to sleep too much. i might see if i can slow my light down enough with a taller front tire and lower air pressure in them to keep from red lighting if i let go the instant the yellows light up. that or i might also try a transbrake button with some delay built in (they make buttons with extra travel built in before the switch activates to delay activation up to .030 sec)
<small>[ February 11, 2003, 04:29 PM: Message edited by: chevyguy3 ]</small>
with a footbrake auto, just stage real deep and go the instant you see amber. youll still probably not get a real great light
if you have a transbrake or clutch you can do pretty good on a pro tree depending how fast your chassis/suspension reacts. a couple years ago with a 6 speed i would shallow stage, dump clutch full throttle when amber lit and cut decent lights
with my new suspension combo and an Art Carr Rebel 'brake in my th400, even if a stage as shallow as possible and let go the instant it goes yellow i cut .340 lights. so for right now im having to wait a tad and try not to sleep too much. i might see if i can slow my light down enough with a taller front tire and lower air pressure in them to keep from red lighting if i let go the instant the yellows light up. that or i might also try a transbrake button with some delay built in (they make buttons with extra travel built in before the switch activates to delay activation up to .030 sec)
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02-11-2003, 08:58 PM
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice The best thing to do to cut good lights on any tree is to practice, practice and more practice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Seat time is the key my friends. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Seat time is the key my friends. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice In a heads-up race, staging the car deeper for a better light will be offset by the amount of ET that you'll lose by doing so.
In an index class, you could use this to your advantage if your car will run under the index and you have to slow it down. That way, you set the car up to run the number while taking into account the lost ET from staging deep.
Some tracks/events won't let you deep stage on a pro tree, though... Plus, a pro tree should be activated very soon after all four pre-stage bulbs are on, so you might not have enough time to stage deep before the tree's already come down. If the Auto-Start system is on (like it should be at any kind of heads up/pro tree class), you only have a certain amount of time (once there are a total of three pre-stage bulbs lit) before the tree will automatically activate, and you'll be red of you aren't staged...
In an index class, you could use this to your advantage if your car will run under the index and you have to slow it down. That way, you set the car up to run the number while taking into account the lost ET from staging deep.
Some tracks/events won't let you deep stage on a pro tree, though... Plus, a pro tree should be activated very soon after all four pre-stage bulbs are on, so you might not have enough time to stage deep before the tree's already come down. If the Auto-Start system is on (like it should be at any kind of heads up/pro tree class), you only have a certain amount of time (once there are a total of three pre-stage bulbs lit) before the tree will automatically activate, and you'll be red of you aren't staged...
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by chevyguy3:
<strong>with my new suspension combo and an Art Carr Rebel 'brake in my th400, even if a stage as shallow as possible and let go the instant it goes yellow i cut .340 lights.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're a bad **** if you can go red on a .400 tree! I don't know what kind of racing you're doing, but are you not allowed to run electronics? A delay box would fix you right up.
I still can't imagine going red on a .400 tree!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
<strong>with my new suspension combo and an Art Carr Rebel 'brake in my th400, even if a stage as shallow as possible and let go the instant it goes yellow i cut .340 lights.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're a bad **** if you can go red on a .400 tree! I don't know what kind of racing you're doing, but are you not allowed to run electronics? A delay box would fix you right up.
I still can't imagine going red on a .400 tree!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice http://www.smokemup.com/games/400_pro_tree.php
Practice up here. I cut numerous 0.15 lights, which is a redlight. <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />
Practice up here. I cut numerous 0.15 lights, which is a redlight. <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />
02-12-2003, 07:29 PM
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice Hell, I just cut 3 .27 ligts which is a red light. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
This is why you need to buy a good practice tree. The 2 that I use you can change the roll out which effect your reaction time alot. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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This is why you need to buy a good practice tree. The 2 that I use you can change the roll out which effect your reaction time alot. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: I need some Pro Tree advice </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Black Sunshine/ 00SS:
<strong> http://www.smokemup.com/games/400_pro_tree.php
Practice up here. <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why practice there? That is the wrong tree, we are looking for a PRO-500 to practice on...
<strong> http://www.smokemup.com/games/400_pro_tree.php
Practice up here. <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why practice there? That is the wrong tree, we are looking for a PRO-500 to practice on...
