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Old 07-29-2005, 07:01 PM
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http://www.zippyvideos.com/5335914737135.html

This is a vid of my burnout and launch. It was only a 1.94 60'. I do live in UT, and the DA was around 5000' that day. Tires are 26X10.5X16 ET Streets, rest of mods in sig and race weight under 3600lbs.

Can anyone tell my why it won't 60? TIA
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My rough take is you didn't get much lift from the front to transfer weight onto the back tires. Didn't look like it "hit" the rear tires either. Madman or some of the other suspension guys can help you out.
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What did the car run???? Did you leave at idle or did you stall it some??? What shocks??
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Old 07-29-2005, 08:21 PM
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Leaving at idle it seems like?
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stall it up some! don't be scared
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stall that thing up! bring up to 2 grand then give her a try.
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I would say that there is no transfer from the front to back but it also didn't seem to spin so i would try stalling that thing up and then if that doesnt work get some weight transfer going. Where is your battery and do you have washer fluid in it all those things can go or be moved.
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Also what PSI in the tires? How was the track prep, was it sticky? It didn't look sticky to me, it looked very slick. We need more details.
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just not hitting the tires hard enough IMO. stall it up higher. also answer the questions above so we can give more hints.
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On that run, I stalled it up only to 1000, then hammered it trying to get some flash in there (I still have a 10 bolt, so am kinda being gentle) I have also tried launching stalled to about 1500, 2000, and 2500 (that's where it starts to overcome the brakes) - same result.

I have stock decarbon shocks still.

Tires were at 20PSI cold, I have tried them at 15 PSI once, didn't 60 any better and went slower (I assume too much rolling resistance?). The track is pretty notorious around here for bad prep, but I cut 2.0's on street tires (pedaling), DR, and the ET Streets . It didn't feel like it spun off the line.

Battery is still in front, and washer fluid is in it. This is still my daily driver. I have been considering moving the battery.

I think that run was a 13.11 @ 104.7 (I beat the cobra ). My car is relatively constant and does a 13.1 with 2.0 60' - I am happy with that least, but really think if I could cut even a low 1.8 I would have 12s.

Let me know if I didn't answer something.

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2.0 60 ft on ET streets is not acceptable. are you sure you really have a 3200 stall?
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That's what I've been thinking. I am pretty sure, I think with the altitude making me lose power and the gears it isn't stalling as high. I think it flash stalls to around 2600.
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your not hitting the tire, no weight transfer either, try adding weight to the *** end of the car or taking weight out of the frontor both actually, and adjust your pinion angle down a few degrees.
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One thing to remember is more gear less stall and less gear more stall
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Originally Posted by sixpackmotorsports
your not hitting the tire, no weight transfer either, try adding weight to the *** end of the car or taking weight out of the frontor both actually, and adjust your pinion angle down a few degrees.
i would never EVER add weight to the rearend in an effort to help with weight distribution. talk about a bandaid fix!
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So getting a bigger stall will help?
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they know more than me, but from what i can gather that they are saying is to get better brakes to hold the car better. although i would imagine u could do that with a line lock? correct me if i am wrong. what rpm does ur cam make the most torque at? could u live with a car with a converter that has a higher stall/str than what u have right now seeing as that is ur possible weak point. ive got almost the same stall 3400/2.1 str. i should have gotten a higher stall, but i will soon enough. with that and minor bolt ons i went 13.01 at 104 with a 1.83 60'. and believe me its got more in it than that. but i went and did the next bet thing and got myself a set of 3.73's. waiting for some money to get them in and than we will see how i like it
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Couple of things, is the car tuned? Where are you at? What is the altitude of the track ... you mentioned altitude making a difference? I have cut 1.61 on the stock decarbon shocks, so that wouldn't be an issue. Next time out, line up behind cars with slicks and position yourself right on top of their groove (dark rubber patch). If the track prep is not good, doing this will help get better launches. You also need to experiment with different tire pressures, I have done well with 25 PSI in my ET streets ... and other times I had to go down to 15 PSI on them. Also, look at the tires, if they are slick and are not gathering debris, they are not hooking. They should have a lot of debris on the top end and have light scuff marks (which indicate a good burnout). That is another thing, what is your burnout technique like? With your 3.73s gears and that 3200 stall, your brake stall should be around where you are (2600). What converter is it, different brands act differently.
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The car is tuned. I am in UT and DA really suck most of the time. That was my around 5000' which is a pretty good DA for us. I have been going to the test-n-tunes so that the track prep is a little better then the street night. I will have to try to line up better behind cars with slicks.

I think I am plenty of debris on the tires, and am not sure about the scuff marks. I have jacked my car up once after a pass, and my driver side tire was stuck to the ground for a second or two, holding that side of the car down. I think they are sticky, but could I be spinning them after 5-10' out?

Burnout tech = left foot on brake, gas until it starts to bog, then let go of brake and roll out.

Converter is a Midwest.

Thanks for the help so far.
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That converter didn't even sound like it flashed... Sounded stock almost. My motor stock with 3.23's and a Vig 3200 cut 1.60 60' all day long.



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