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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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if you look in the pic theres a crossmember running across the car right behind the doors , welded to the rockers... tie the cage into that and throw some subframe connectors to the front off that crossmember and your good to go... you can see in the pic that he has the main hoop welded to that crossmember already...

technically he should do the floor bars for a 25.5 cert while he's there, that way it will be done and be easier to upgrade to a 25.5 car if thats not his intentions already..

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since the 25.5 deal got brought up what specifically are you referring to for the floor bars? any pictures? Are those the ones that go from the inside of the main hoop down to the tranny tunnel?


thanks, its a stupid question but my mind blanked out at the moment lol
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Hey backwoods what do you figure is the biggest tire you could fit with the 24in rear frame out of curiosity?



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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 06:27 AM
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we had a 32x17.00 MT ET Street on a 15x15 under last nite ans there was still plenty of room a 21'' would be an easy fit
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JPMuscle
since the 25.5 deal got brought up what specifically are you referring to for the floor bars? any pictures? Are those the ones that go from the inside of the main hoop down to the tranny tunnel?


thanks, its a stupid question but my mind blanked out at the moment lol
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i dont have the sfi books with me here but if your considering doing it, go to the sfi foundation site and buy yourself a 25.5 spec book.... they give you the break down on tubing sizes, location,gusseting, ect,ect...

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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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man you guys are hardcore!
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NRC-Motorsports
i dont have the sfi books with me here but if your considering doing it, go to the sfi foundation site and buy yourself a 25.5 spec book.... they give you the break down on tubing sizes, location,gusseting, ect,ect...

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il have to do that, you got any pics showing the basic jist of it?


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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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you guys are using mild steel?
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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This is basicly gonna be a mild steel prostreet/Bracket car for my dad. Im gonna try to make all the factory interior fit(exept backseat) fut and look good.

here are the pics with the 32/17 m/t on the prostars
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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you got any pics showing the tire clearance from the inside of the car?



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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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sorry, no inside pics, but thereis probabley room for 5-6 more inchs o tire
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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and so whats the update?



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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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I started on mine. It is going to be a little different than yours but should be nice. We deal with the 3800 v6 engines and are limited with the trans and being fwd. But as of right now with them turned down they are running low 9's with 154 mph trap speeds. So I decided to build a firebird with the 3800 twin turbo with all the goodies. Here are some pics of it so far, it should be done in 2 months. I'll keep the pics coming as we go.





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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Tim,

thats pretty sweet man, project is coming along good.


my buddy whose doing my car jus finished putting the motor back into his roadrunner, so after that and getting back to classes after thanksgiving hes gonna be starting in on my car here this week so hopefully il have pics befor the weekend is out.



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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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you guys are crazy!! Good work. Heres my question to you..... Rick Head went 7's on stock style suspension on a f-body. So why all the work when stock style can go fast?? Im still young/new to this game so dont bite my head off, just wondering.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Taubr Unit
you guys are crazy!! Good work. Heres my question to you..... Rick Head went 7's on stock style suspension on a f-body. So why all the work when stock style can go fast?? Im still young/new to this game so dont bite my head off, just wondering.


because back half cars are cooler. Theres no question that the stock style cars are going real fast now days but alot of guys doing depending on the class they race in, different requirements and different guidlines. but in the end when it comes down to it backhalfed cars are cooler.



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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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hell yea there cooler. How much in the end does a back half car cost to swap?
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Taubr Unit
hell yea there cooler. How much in the end does a back half car cost to swap?

depends how far you want to go. If your doing the job yourself it isnt all that expensive. The materials arent all that costly regarding the frame rails and tubing and what not. The real money starts in the rear components and suspension.

Im not sure what a average shop would charge ya for the labor and work but it will be in the thousands.



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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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I priced several local shops several years ago... To take a 1990 camaro to a 25.2 legal blackhalfed car roller(4 link rear suspension and narrowed 9" rear included) was gonna be in the neighborhood of 15K.

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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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yeah to take a car to a certain certification is gonna cost big money most 25.2 and 25.5 cars are north a 15 - 20k. If you just want to build a fun backhalfed street car and not worry about the certification then the price drops considerably.


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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Well, we are a little farther along, herea re some updates pics
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