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Old 11-28-2006, 12:29 AM
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backwoods, lookin sexy...



so far this is what ive got tied up in my project


160ft 1 5/8 4130 --- 500$ got a smokin deal

preformed rear rails and crossmember 2x3 sq tubing 150$
- the only reason i orderd them was cuz i wasnt sure i had enough tubing to do everything i wanted

Complete dana 60 out of a 1 ton ford 20$

- i still have to go through it and rebuild it, narrow it and fab brackets

Stock 10 bolt with 4 link brackets so i can cruise around on the street with ZR1s if i want - - free


So thats roughly 700 bucks in what ive got into it now, add another 500 for the 4 link, rod ends and shocks puts me at 1200 in just parts and im not paying for labor

I may end up just buying a d60 from moser so thats roughly another 2k with brakes. then figure another 1000 for wheels and tires.

So a grand total of 4k for parts and no labor.


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Old 11-28-2006, 10:31 AM
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Im looking at:

600 in steel tubing and frame rails, swingouts
1500 in labor
350 in wheels, tires
250 fourlink
600 coilovers

so around 4000 grand total. still not to bad
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just out of curiosity, how much weight will all that tubing add to the weight of the car?
I know you chopping alot of the factory body off but that tubing is pretty heavy.
Old 11-28-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MOLESTER
just out of curiosity, how much weight will all that tubing add to the weight of the car?
I know you chopping alot of the factory body off but that tubing is pretty heavy.


4130 chromoly is around 3.5lbs per ft so figure 160ft = 560lbs

but ya figure everything would be close to evening out after weight reduction and lighter components



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Old 11-29-2006, 12:14 AM
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I would love to do somethin like this but i cant bring myself to chopping up my 02 SS, i give you guys props for being able to.
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Originally Posted by MOLESTER
I would love to do somethin like this but i cant bring myself to chopping up my 02 SS, i give you guys props for being able to.

il agree with ya there i couldnt bring my self to chop up a ss especially a 02. if you were serious about pursueing it do what i did and start with a v6 car, you have to gut everything anyway including suspension. Plus insurance is dirt cheap compared to a z28 or SS.


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my car ended up lighter even after all my mild steel tubing. the stock floor in the rear is alot heavier than you think. many many layers to cut out.
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Im shooting for a 2900-3000lb race weight. Gonna be touugh, Be it can be done
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Originally Posted by JPMuscle
4130 chromoly is around 3.5lbs per ft so figure 160ft = 560lbs

but ya figure everything would be close to evening out after weight reduction and lighter components



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You quoted mild steel weights. 1 5/8 chromemoly is 1.1 lbs a ft.
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with a few calculations i came up with moly weighing 1.37 lb per foot and mild steel weighing 1.93 lb per foot. and that is 1 5/8 tubing. which is about right becasue i know from past experience that moly is about 70% the weight of mild steel. anyone feel free to correct me if im wrong.
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Thats SOUNDS about right..

A lot of people don't think its worth the extra money.... but it adds up depending on how far you go if you ask me.

A 30% weight savings is a lot if you ask me....
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Originally Posted by JPMuscle
4130 chromoly is around 3.5lbs per ft so figure 160ft = 560lbs

but ya figure everything would be close to evening out after weight reduction and lighter components



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My catalog shows 1 5/8" x .083" chromoly tubing to weigh 1.367 lbs/ft.

I can't find any tubing listed which weighs 3.5 lbs/ft. Even 1 5/8" x .134" wall ERW mild steel only weighs 2.134 lbs/ft.
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Originally Posted by MADMAN
You quoted mild steel weights. 1 5/8 chromemoly is 1.1 lbs a ft.


oops thats my bad, I was going off numbers i saw kickn around on here before. I was thinking mild but typing chromoly. I really need to stop staring at my computer for long periods of time.



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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
man you guys are hardcore!
Man, thats beyond hardcore.
Wish I had the guts to do it though.
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so wheres everybodies updates at??




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we need more pics. seeing progress pics of other cars motivates me to actually work on my own.
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Originally Posted by 9sec93
we need more pics. seeing progress pics of other cars motivates me to actually work on my own.


what ya got left to to do?



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im changing the front end over to the 98+ style and i got a sunoco hood (extended to the windshield). also switching to a wishbone in the rear instead of the diagonal link.
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nice, you buildin the wishbone yourself or are you gona go with a kit?


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i will have pics soon, putting in the wishbone and getting ready for aluminum work . Aluminum work is gonna be a BEEEEAATTCCHHHH!!!!!


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