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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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The chassis/tire combo on my car is fine, I'm not having any issues there. However, my cam/converter/gear combo is sucking big time, and it's time to fix that. Right now I have a Hotcam, a loose 4000 stall (the STR is unknown) inside of a th350 (stock style gear ratios in it), and the stock 3.42 10 bolt gears. My thinking is that the converter is too big for this cam, and the gears are too low for the converter (since I have a "lazy" th350)

I've done quite a bit of research, and a lot of checking other people's results. The best solution I have is to go with a 3800/2.2 converter, 3.90 gears, and the TRak cam

I'm not worried about top end (i.e. 140+) on this car, nor am I worried about "drivability" (I have another car to daily drive...this one is driven on weekends mostly, sometimes once a week to work). However, I think that 4.10/4.11 gears would be too steep, as I would run out of gear a bit too quick

So what do you guys think of that combo? Anyone have something better? My shorter term goal is to hit 11s on the engine, then spray it to see 10s. Later on when I have more money I'll do more engine work to try and hit 10s N/A, but for now 11s is good enough
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:06 AM
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1) dont worry about STR. that is a joke
2) a 4000 stall (if it truely stalls at 4000) is NOT too big for that hotcam. a 200 rpm difference in converter wont make any difference at all.
3) gearing only matters what sized tire you are running. i run 3.73+28" radial and its as much gearing as i want. my car 60' well. 1.5 on the motor, 1.3 on the jug
4) your th350 has more gearing than my th400. nothign lazy about it at all.

what are your track results? why do you think its so bad?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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Talk to the guys at Fuddle Racing. They have been really helpful with my stall selection. Otherwise from what you are saying the cam matches the stall, and TH350's are strong well geared transmissions. You need to upgrade your rearend. I'm no psychic but a 10bolt will not last too long getting hit with a 4000 stall. Go with a 9" and either 3.73 or 4.11 gears. If it is mostly a track car then I would say go with the 4.11.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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1) dont worry about STR. that is a joke
2) a 4000 stall (if it truely stalls at 4000) is NOT too big for that hotcam. a 200 rpm difference in converter wont make any difference at all.
3) gearing only matters what sized tire you are running. i run 3.73+28" radial and its as much gearing as i want. my car 60' well. 1.5 on the motor, 1.3 on the jug
4) your th350 has more gearing than my th400. nothign lazy about it at all.

what are your track results? why do you think its so bad?
Well between school, work, and there not being a track 10-20 minutes away, I haven't been able to get real track times. I can just tell that the car feels really slugish down low, especially after a launch. It'll jump off the line pretty nice, but it drives through the converter a lot shortly after a launch. It also seems like it takes longer than it should to go through 1st and 2nd gear, compared to how it did when I first put the th350 in. With normal driving, it feels very loose...more than it should. I know that a higher RPM stall will feel more loose compared to a stock one, but I've driven other cars with 4000 stalled LS1s and they weren't near as loose as mine is

I took the pan off today, and there was a pretty good amount of metal flakes on the drain plug. I'm thinking between a rebuild and a fresh converter, most of the problems should be taken care of. The trans was not rebuilt before I put it in the car, and I have no idea what kind of abuse it took before I put it in (was in a time bind back then, and I had to get it in asap...but I have all the time in the world now)
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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sounds like you have a ton of variables. dont go buying a converter or a rear untill you get that tranny figured out. i still think the only way to figure out if the converter is junk is taking it to the track. assuming you have enough tire and power the converter will tell its story. you cant tell over the net what is going on. figure out what rpm its turning through the traps.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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id say go with a bigger cam to wake up that car!
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sounds like you have a ton of variables. dont go buying a converter or a rear untill you get that tranny figured out. i still think the only way to figure out if the converter is junk is taking it to the track. assuming you have enough tire and power the converter will tell its story. you cant tell over the net what is going on. figure out what rpm its turning through the traps.
Good idea...just need to get my *** to a track! I did some playing around with it tonight though, and it seems to be a bit better now that I flushed the trans fluid and put a new filter/gasket in it. The old fluid definitely needed to be flushed out, as it looked pretty bad..and the filter was nasty looking, too. The car seemed a lot tighter from a stop with normal driving than it did the last few months. The fluid condition/level has a lot to due with how it'll act, so maybe that's been my problem. Or maybe I'm just too used to my current power level, so the car feels slow to me now...guess that means it's time to start modding again
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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My Camaro would do high 1.5s and low 1.6 60's no problem with the stock cam (stock motor) and a 4,000 stall on motor with 3.73s and no power adders. You don't need a tighter converter, just fix your trans and then take the car to the track and see what it really does. What tires/wheels are you using?
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i would run a 4.10 and a 26 unless you plan on spraying it then run a 28 but a more gear would compliment that convertor well
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