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Why does my car still squat/shitty 60'? Thought I covered all the bases?

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Old 05-05-2008, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGENZ28
For a street / strip I'd go TH400, if you're going to strictly drag race and add more power glide is the way to go.

I loved my n20 SBC and th400 T/B
I plan to go glide when I build a bigger motor for the car and it goes to a drag only car. I want to get another TA or Formula for a driver before I dedicate this one to the track.
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I found a couple copyrighted pics that may help :


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Got any pics of the car just sitting there, so we could see much squatting is happening?
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These are the best I have for right now




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You could take a pic with your phone and that would still be more helpful.
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Ill try to get some tonight
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Those launch pic's, what shock settings did you have on the car, do you have relocation brackets on the car? What about the front tq arm position?

Your car is getting traction by tossing a ton of weight backwards, rather then the rear separating from the car like it should be and the front coming up.

What springs are on the car too?
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Took a few still pics. Parked up against the building at work so Ill have to get better pics later.






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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Those launch pic's, what shock settings did you have on the car, do you have relocation brackets on the car? What about the front tq arm position?

Your car is getting traction by tossing a ton of weight backwards, rather then the rear separating from the car like it should be and the front coming up.

What springs are on the car too?

The rear shocks were @ 5, front @2 (QA1 R series up front, 12 way singles in the rear)

Yes I have relo brackets, they are on the bottom hole.

I have a long torque arm, relocated off the trans, UMI relo bracket. It is on the second set of bolt holes up (You can adjust where the TA meets the cross member.) Should this be at more of an angle?

Springs are stock LS1
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You can try moving the tq arm up a hole, I'd try that, but I'd also try moving it down too to see if it will help, every car is different.

When I had the best luck (I run the same shocks you are) I ran the fronts on 3, and the rears on 6 on the left rear and 7 on the right rear.

I think you have the rear shocks too soft, I tried them there, but went faster with them stiffer. I was on a 275/60 radial at the time as well, leaving off the footbrake. I never did get the car to hook off the transbrake with my foot on the floor, but the converter goes to 5400 and that's probably why.

Try tightening those settings, see if it helps. The stagger will stop the car from rolling over, and should keep the rear from squatting so much.

I also am running stock rear springs with the isolaters removed and 275 lb qa1 front springs.
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Ok well the car no longer squats. I put a set of low mile take out factory Trans Am springs in the rear. There is now more gap in the rear fender well. Now the car has almost no weight transfer and 60' got worse (Use to be 1.58-1.69, now 1.64). I even lowered the front shocks back down to 2 and the rears to 5. They were on 3 and 8 before. It is very evident the old springs were just shot. When I put my cooler, and track toolbox in the back of the car it did not effect the ride height at all like it did before.

Before I got the new springs I moved my torque arm all the way down on the relocation bracket to see if that would help. I have not yet moved it back up. I plan to move the torque arm all the way up and hopefully this solves my problem. Ill post up and let everyone know.
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Originally Posted by Wonderbread
Here what I have and whats goin on:

- Spohn 1" Weld In Drag Bar
- car squats like a SOB. I wish I had some pics, but do not. What should I look at or change? Any suggestions? TYIA
I am confused "Spohn 1 inch weld in drag bar"?? The Sway bar? I thought the weld in was 1.3125" and the bolt in was 1". Please clarify.
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Originally Posted by 99.9percenter
I am confused "Spohn 1 inch weld in drag bar"?? The Sway bar? I thought the weld in was 1.3125" and the bolt in was 1". Please clarify.
This is what I have:
http://www.spohn.net/?action=product&pid=1022
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[/quote]The car is pig heavy, so if anything, the air pressure is going to help it. Stiffen the rear shocks up to 6 or 7, see if that helps some.[/quote]

Like what pro stock john said I found that my car really liked 18psi in the radials and 7 in back and 1 in front on the QA1's..... And my lca's are in the middle hole. we might try the bottom when we spray it but not now.... car dead hoooked....
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for what its worth, i rum my car at 1 in the front and 10 in the rear shocks. and i'm getting high 1.3x and 1.4 60 foot times.




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