Why does my car still squat/shitty 60'? Thought I covered all the bases?
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Here what I have and whats goin on:
98 Trans Am
- 347 making 450 RWHP NA
- 9" Rear 3.70 gear...spool
- Pinion angle -3
- MT ET Street Radials 325/50/15 (28") tall running between 16-19 PSI
- PTC 4000 Stall
- QA1 R Series in the front adjusted to 2 300lb springs
- QA1 12 ways in the back on 5
- Spohn 1" Weld In Drag Bar
- Spohn Rod Ended Control Arms
- Relo Brackets, Control Arms on bottom hole
- Stock Rear Springs
- Raceweight 3650
- Leaving at approx 3000-3200
- No spin
Best ET 11.42 @ 116 w 1.52 60'
It did that once.... its seems to run a 11.46 @ 116 w/ 1.59 60'
The thing is the car squats like a SOB. I wish I had some pics, but do not. What should I look at or change? Any suggestions? TYIA
98 Trans Am
- 347 making 450 RWHP NA
- 9" Rear 3.70 gear...spool
- Pinion angle -3
- MT ET Street Radials 325/50/15 (28") tall running between 16-19 PSI
- PTC 4000 Stall
- QA1 R Series in the front adjusted to 2 300lb springs
- QA1 12 ways in the back on 5
- Spohn 1" Weld In Drag Bar
- Spohn Rod Ended Control Arms
- Relo Brackets, Control Arms on bottom hole
- Stock Rear Springs
- Raceweight 3650
- Leaving at approx 3000-3200
- No spin
Best ET 11.42 @ 116 w 1.52 60'
It did that once.... its seems to run a 11.46 @ 116 w/ 1.59 60'
The thing is the car squats like a SOB. I wish I had some pics, but do not. What should I look at or change? Any suggestions? TYIA
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Here what I have and whats goin on:
98 Trans Am
- 347 making 450 RWHP NA
- 9" Rear 3.70 gear...spool
- Pinion angle -3
- MT ET Street Radials 325/50/15 (28") tall running between 16-19 PSI
- PTC 4000 Stall
- QA1 R Series in the front adjusted to 2 300lb springs
- QA1 12 ways in the back on 5
- Spohn 1" Weld In Drag Bar
- Spohn Rod Ended Control Arms
- Relo Brackets, Control Arms on bottom hole
- Stock Rear Springs
- Raceweight 3650
- Leaving at approx 3000-3200
- No spin
Best ET 11.42 @ 116 w 1.52 60'
It did that once.... its seems to run a 11.46 @ 116 w/ 1.59 60'
The thing is the car squats like a SOB. I wish I had some pics, but do not. What should I look at or change? Any suggestions? TYIA
98 Trans Am
- 347 making 450 RWHP NA
- 9" Rear 3.70 gear...spool
- Pinion angle -3
- MT ET Street Radials 325/50/15 (28") tall running between 16-19 PSI
- PTC 4000 Stall
- QA1 R Series in the front adjusted to 2 300lb springs
- QA1 12 ways in the back on 5
- Spohn 1" Weld In Drag Bar
- Spohn Rod Ended Control Arms
- Relo Brackets, Control Arms on bottom hole
- Stock Rear Springs
- Raceweight 3650
- Leaving at approx 3000-3200
- No spin
Best ET 11.42 @ 116 w 1.52 60'
It did that once.... its seems to run a 11.46 @ 116 w/ 1.59 60'
The thing is the car squats like a SOB. I wish I had some pics, but do not. What should I look at or change? Any suggestions? TYIA
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I have a friend with a procharged car with stock shocks, springs, just some LCA's a torque arm, stock sway bar and the car leaves nice and the body rolls over the rear wheels like it should. Not down on the wheels like my car does.
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Alot of lift in the front, front tires just barely leaving the ground... if at all. From what I have been told the tailpipes (That stick out about an inch further than the bumper...still ahve to fix that) look like they are gonig to drag the ground when I launch.
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I think -3 pinion is too much with sold CA's. Should be -1.5 to -2. Stock springs... what is the rating on them? If the rear is squatting then the springs are too soft. -Mark
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Honestly not sure on the spring rating. The main reason they are still in there is because that seems to work out for everyone else that I read about. Now the car does have 130k on the body.... is it possible they are just really wore out? If I have to replace these any recommendations on what I should use? Should I just look for a set from a lower millage vehicle? I have a place local that has tons of used Fbody parts so it would not be a huge deal to pickup a set. If there is something better after market, I'm listening.
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One thing I didnt mention is that last season the car was pretty much resting on the Spohn torque arm because the wrong bolts holes were used to install it. Last year the car launched straight.
Now I fix the problem and the car squats.
It still would not 60' better than a 1.58 last year. 1.52 is my best this year.
Now I fix the problem and the car squats.
It still would not 60' better than a 1.58 last year. 1.52 is my best this year.
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If the car squats it's either the shocks are set too soft, you have the wrong springs (rate is too low) or your instant center is too low. First I would set the rear shocks firmer, one click at a time same on both sides. If you go up a few clicks and it still squats then I would try a heavier spring, for something around 3600 pounds I would think it will run a 175-200 pound rate.
If your torque arm is adjustable try raising the arm up one hole which should raise the intersection point which should add more anti squat. I like to see the car leave without it squatting at all or having a slight separation on the launch.
You can get a 10" coilover spring for the rear with an adjustable spring perch which is nice because you can also set the rear ride hight without cutting the spring.
Best way for help, post a video so we can see how it leaves then it's easier to offer advice.
If your torque arm is adjustable try raising the arm up one hole which should raise the intersection point which should add more anti squat. I like to see the car leave without it squatting at all or having a slight separation on the launch.
You can get a 10" coilover spring for the rear with an adjustable spring perch which is nice because you can also set the rear ride hight without cutting the spring.
Best way for help, post a video so we can see how it leaves then it's easier to offer advice.
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Leave the air pressure alone, you're on a radial they like air pressure.
The car is pig heavy, so if anything, the air pressure is going to help it. Stiffen the rear shocks up to 6 or 7, see if that helps some.
Stock rear springs are fine, I've gone as good as 1.35 60 on them at 3500 lbs, so you're not really on the wrong spring.
I'm willnig to bet that if you could get a couple hundred lbs out of the car, really from anywhere you can at this point it's going to help alot.
The car is pig heavy, so if anything, the air pressure is going to help it. Stiffen the rear shocks up to 6 or 7, see if that helps some.
Stock rear springs are fine, I've gone as good as 1.35 60 on them at 3500 lbs, so you're not really on the wrong spring.
I'm willnig to bet that if you could get a couple hundred lbs out of the car, really from anywhere you can at this point it's going to help alot.