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Old 01-22-2009, 07:45 PM
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wow! It's good to see some big NA engines still being built
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Originally Posted by KCFormula
Congrats, Allan is the man! His motor designs consistantly make great power. And his tunes make anything driveable.
Any specs on the cam?
Yeah he does great work!
It actually made more power then I expected.
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:48 PM
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Awesome Power. Allan is a smart guy. Oil system seemed to workout fine for you also. What oil pressure relief spring did he use in the oil pump? RED or BLUE?
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
That's a small fortune in parts. Those headers are super sexy! I'd love to have a set like that. I might have to mimic that design. I'm guessing those springs are in the 1.6xx range in diameter? After spending a small fortune why'd you stick with the wet sump setup?

EDIT: Without seeing the internals are you planning on spraying this or was the 4 inch stroke decision coupled with the wet sump / reduce windage and reduced pistons speeds?
The header do look good. But I want a big fat TQ curve and Allan recommended the Tri Y with Merge Collector to help accomplish that. And it made more TQ then I expected.

Not planing on spray, this motor was designed as a NA motor.

4 inch stroke was more for the RPM range I wanted.
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Originally Posted by KCFormula
I can't believe that yours made the power so early. My 421 (4.125" stroke) w/ a Beck intake made peak power at 8300rpm.

Blame that on Tim !

Bob had a limit of 8000 RPM(wet sump oil system), so the cam and intake design was setup to peak at approx 7800 RPM. The T\B size has nothing to do with the peak power.


Thanks guys for all the comments I really like the headers
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Congrats on the setup!!!
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Originally Posted by KCFormula
I can't believe that yours made the power so early. My 421 (4.125" stroke) w/ a Beck intake made peak power at 8300rpm.
Yeah, the power does come on early.
What length runners do you have on your intake?

When we speced out the build, I want it to peak at 7,800.
The hole set-up was spec out first, Allan uses a computer engine program for all the spec.
The intake was built my John Beck to Allan spec as well (ie runner length, runner opening area, plenum area, ect.).

It does seam to work well, but I will have to get it to the track for the real test!
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:34 PM
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Congrats! It's been a while so I wasn't sure if you were still working on this build. Your car should really move.
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wow thats sweet i want one
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thats some serious power man...cant wait to see the track results once it is all done. I have always loved your vert man
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Old 01-22-2009, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Futral
Blame that on Tim !

Bob had a limit of 8000 RPM(wet sump oil system), so the cam and intake design was setup to peak at approx 7800 RPM. The T\B size has nothing to do with the peak power.


Thanks guys for all the comments I really like the headers
OH DON'T WORRY, I DO!!! haha

Allan my car runs AWESOME!!! Thanks for the tune.
Keep up the amazing work. (I wish they had a stripper smilie for ya)
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Old 01-22-2009, 11:30 PM
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WOW incredible !!
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We need vids ! please if you can, your motor is a beast!!!
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Very nice! Auto or 6 speed? Must have a big nasty cam and the combo seems dead on.
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wow...yea those headers are saweet...nice set up
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Thanks guys, I can't wait to run it down the track!
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Originally Posted by Bill00Formula
Congrats! It's been a while so I wasn't sure if you were still working on this build. Your car should really move.
Ya! work keeps getting in the way. I have done a lot of changes like upgraded to Madman suspension, built myself a shorten 9" rear-end, and cage. My brother has also up his set-up too. Were looking forward to running at the new track.
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Looks killer Bob. Now get it in the car and lets go test.
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Originally Posted by Cliff
Very nice! Auto or 6 speed? Must have a big nasty cam and the combo seems dead on.
Face Plated T-56 and the cam is not that big
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Originally Posted by MADMAN
Looks killer Bob. Now get it in the car and lets go test.
Ya! I can't wait, I'll get Rrrr done soon.
Thanks for your expertise and quality parts.
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