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Old 10-30-2009, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Haans249
Well a dyno sheet will tell you. But I have no idea where the sheet I saw is located. If it really didn't matter, do you think Harrop would have just made the intake without a plenum? That should be the first clue.
the air box they make with the kit isnt worth a ****. just because a company sells you something with a kit doesnt mean much. i hear all this stuff about dyno sheets this and dynos that but no proof. also, that still goes back to what i said earlier. the air box provided from harrop wont fit on a f-body.

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not a damn thing

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So has the engine been on the dyno yet ?
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sorry we havn't got any dyno numbers yet,we are in the process of building some new dyno headers,should be done by the beginning of the week.


as for the airbox vs. screens on the itb's.i got a couple guys running some pretty quick bracket cars running enderle stack injection.We picked up a considerable amount of et when going to a sealed plenum on top of the stacks over letting them out in the open individually.Every engine needs a certain size plenum, on the itb's you need to put them on the inlet side of the throttle blade vs the traditional in the intake after the throttle blade
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Thanks for the explanation Shawn.

Looking fwd to those numbers !!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
sorry we havn't got any dyno numbers yet,we are in the process of building some new dyno headers,should be done by the beginning of the week.


as for the airbox vs. screens on the itb's.i got a couple guys running some pretty quick bracket cars running enderle stack injection.We picked up a considerable amount of et when going to a sealed plenum on top of the stacks over letting them out in the open individually.Every engine needs a certain size plenum, on the itb's you need to put them on the inlet side of the throttle blade vs the traditional in the intake after the throttle blade
how do you determine the volume size of the plenum? also on these bracket cars were they rail dragsters or door slammers? with it being out in the open air and not coverd by a hood or scoop may have been an issue as well? i dont know how much or how fast the air moves under the hood of a f-body but i imagine with the stacks out in the open pressure differance and the speed of the air traveling over the car may affect the air going into the stacks.
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Originally Posted by rons 00z
everyone said that it wont work and you'll never make any HP with it compared to a sheet metal or fast 90/90 and just added more and more **** talk with nothing to back it up.
That's because there has been no real evidence of it being worth the money. There are thousands of people running fast/sheet metal intakes but how many are running ITB's?
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Originally Posted by FMS_FTW
That's because there has been no real evidence of it being worth the money. There are thousands of people running fast/sheet metal intakes but how many are running ITB's?
We have had good luck with an ITB manifold and it's not even dialed in yet.
A huge advantage over a sheetmetal is that it drives like a stock vehicle. (We are idling around 500rpm).
There is no doubt that Shawn and Ed will figure it out and make the car an absolute monster.
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Originally Posted by vetteboy2k
We have had good luck with an ITB manifold and it's not even dialed in yet.
A huge advantage over a sheetmetal is that it drives like a stock vehicle. (We are idling around 500rpm).
There is no doubt that Shawn and Ed will figure it out and make the car an absolute monster.
same thing i have going on with mine. my 247/252 @ 106 lsa cam idles at 800 rpm and has the driveability of a stock motor. these intakes are the **** once you get all the little bugs dialed out.
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If you guys are going to continue arguing and not post anything informative,please do not continue to post in my thread
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
sorry we havn't got any dyno numbers yet,we are in the process of building some new dyno headers,should be done by the beginning of the week.


as for the airbox vs. screens on the itb's.i got a couple guys running some pretty quick bracket cars running enderle stack injection.We picked up a considerable amount of et when going to a sealed plenum on top of the stacks over letting them out in the open individually.Every engine needs a certain size plenum, on the itb's you need to put them on the inlet side of the throttle blade vs the traditional in the intake after the throttle blade
Makes perfect sense knowing the phenomenon that occurs in the trumpets.
Placing those injectors before the bell mouth will also make more power but is often hard to do.
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We did test it on the engine dyno, it was a SBF and we lost a solid 55-60. I will ask Jack for the dyno sheets tomorrow. I believe it was a 408ci engine with a BS3 controller.
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
If you guys are going to continue arguing and not post anything informative,please do not continue to post in my thread
CODE BLUE!!!.......CODE BLUE!!!......HI JACKING IN PROGRESS!!! NOTHING MAY BE COMPLETED UNTIL THE WHINING IS OVER!!!!!!!!


It might be the lack of Roller Cam Bearings


Good luck Shawn!
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Originally Posted by hellbents10
We did test it on the engine dyno, it was a SBF and we lost a solid 55-60. I will ask Jack for the dyno sheets tomorrow. I believe it was a 408ci engine with a BS3 controller.
good deal i look forward to seeing them.
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
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Helped ya out buddy.....

I cant wait to see how it does.

How long after the E Dyno will it take to get it in the car???

Kyle
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well,we got some pulls on her today.We still have the breakin oil in and it was pretty heat soaked but so far we got 665 hp and 590 ft lbs.
We are going to add some plenums to the intake and possibly port match it to the heads-it was alot smaller that the head ports.






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Make sure to test it with the plenums before you port match it

Great work!!
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed


Hey nice valve covers. I think I have seen these before.
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Originally Posted by Haans249
Make sure to test it with the plenums before you port match it

Great work!!

Yes, testing with the plenum on it may be a good idea bevore you port it....and after that...
Any kinds of filters will need to be run anyway.

Canīt wait to see the end results.
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Well worth the wait man !!! Nice to see such high preliminary numbers. Hopefully further testing / tuning dials this beast in and yields even better numbers. Great Job Shawn !

Any guesstimates on what she may end up doing ?


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