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Old 01-29-2010, 08:21 AM
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I found this on LS1Tech when I did a search

{You can judge the aggressiveness of a cam by subtracting the advertised duration(.006") from the .050" duration. The typical range will be 49-67. 49 being the harshest and 67 being extremly lazy. A Comp XE lobe will have a diffrence of 53. It still comes off the seat early and provides good low-end power. Springs should make 25-30 k easy, but I would pull one and check it around 20k.}
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So it seems like the xe style lobe is the cam for a dd, i wonder how much lift and duration plays into spring life. Like how a 224/224 cam on 550 lift would be compared to a 234/234 cam on 600 lift assuming the same ramp rate of like 53.
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The ramp rate from .006" to .050" for the EPS lobes is 49 degrees. This is fast, but ramp rate is not the only determining factor in how spring friendly a cam is and how stable it will be at rpm. Acceleration and jerk are much more important factors and it is here where the EPS lobes are superior to the XE-R lobes. Acceleration and jerk are much more controlled with the EPS lobes vs. XE-R lobes even though they match the XE-R lobes at 49 degrees and have more lift.
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Thanks Patrick, I corrected the info in my post. The cam doctor data is slightly different than the cam card, but the card is 49* and the cam doctor is 50 intake and 49 exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
The ramp rate from .006" to .050" for the EPS lobes is 49 degrees. This is fast, but ramp rate is not the only determining factor in how spring friendly a cam is and how stable it will be at rpm. Acceleration and jerk are much more important factors and it is here where the EPS lobes are superior to the XE-R lobes. Acceleration and jerk are much more controlled with the EPS lobes vs. XE-R lobes even though they match the XE-R lobes at 49 degrees and have more lift.
Geoff explained it to me like the difference leaving the line with an automatic transmission and a manual transmission. You get acceleration without the jerk like with an automatic.

All this leads to the next question, just how close can a cam grinder hold to the specs?

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I wish these lobes were around when I did my cam shopping....
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Anyone running this with an M6? I am looking for a very DD friendly cam to get over 400rwhp. I maybe going to an LS6 longblock as well especially after seeing this numbers with the stock heads.
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I can't see why you wouldn't be able to make more RWHP than we did through the A4 and it would be very driver friendly with plenty of usable torque. This car would be a blast with an M6 and MT DRs.
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nice results. how much was the ls6 longblock?
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I picked it up from SDPC for $2995.00 Definitely a sweet deal!
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how do you think that cam would work in a truck with 5.7L? Where are you shiftin it at? 6500?
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It offers plenty of torque and the power comes in quick so I think it would push a truck just great. We have only made one trip to the track so far and we were shifting early at 6000 on the 1-2 and 6200 ish on the 2-3. I plan to bump it up on our next trip to see what the car has in it. I'm planning to shoot for 6400-6500 rpm shift points to see if she likes it.
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Originally Posted by TXCAMSS
I picked it up from SDPC for $2995.00 Definitely a sweet deal!
Everyone seems to be getting great deals from them on this board! I am pretty much set on getting the Longblock at this point and a nice small cam like this and being set. All you had to upgrade was the cam and springs correct? Did you also need to do a pushrod change or anything?
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Yeah we got the cam, springs and PRs from EPS. The nice thing about it is that you can sell the new LS6 cam and springs to recover a large amount of the expenses and add a nice amount of very dependable power
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excuse my ignorance... people talk a lot about springs breaking and things of that nature after like 15-30k, is there any danger of that with this combo? does it offer as much reliability as stock, or close?
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Some great results with that EPS Cam...I need to have them spec me a new cam for my setup. My motor wants more cam/gear lol. I wish our tracks out here had - DA. I ran my 11.2 at +2000 DA with super shitty track prep lol.
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Originally Posted by pheer
excuse my ignorance... people talk a lot about springs breaking and things of that nature after like 15-30k, is there any danger of that with this combo? does it offer as much reliability as stock, or close?
You'll never have a cammed car that has the same spring reliability as stock. Unless you go with a very small cam without much lift. Aftermarket cams are harder on springs and springs wear out over time, thats why people say to have the spring pressure tested more often than stock. Intervals depend completely on the valvetrain setup though.
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Times?? Never saw the other thread.
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Originally Posted by fastvet
Times?? Never saw the other thread.
The times are in this thread. Look on page one or two.
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Ahhh, Got it. Thanks


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