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There point of this was they were a bunch of import guys telling me how im an idiot for even thinking about building my domestic, heavy, V8 car. They know guys with 1000whp civics, evos, and sti's that were build on a $10,000 budget. One of the guys said he has rode in one and saw it on the dyno and knows it cost less than 10 grand for the whole car. Another guy also said he can make 8 or 9 hundred whp with his stock Golf for $4500. One of the guys also said that he would use the stock fuel pump on his civic and stock tranny and clutch and make a couple dyno runs to put down 1000whp and then make a couple passes guarented before the stock tranny would go out. This is with a t3/t4 and one guy claimed he could do it on pump gas also. I also had two guys (they just happen to own hondas) get in my face and try to fight me over this whole ordeal. So after an hour or so of argueing I had 6-7 guys butt-hurt and mad because i called BS on them building a 1000whp car for 10 stacks and one guy ready to drive back home and get his daddys 850hp supra to outrun my lid only Z28...
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Yea, I laughed and was having a good time asking them questions and acting interested for a while. Then people started taking shots at me and it started to get heated but all in all there the ones that are building cars on hopes and dreams and im here in reality knowing that im not going to be building any 1000whp cars anytime soon and im perfectly ok with that Lol
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408 ci iron short block from vedor = $3675
vendor stage 3 6.0 heads = $1825
headers and intake = $2500
misc = $1000
nitrous = $1000
TOTAL = $10,000
watching all the honda guys go running out of the dyno shop after the dyno hits 1000whp for 1.3 seconds then a large explosion and fire everywhere = PRICELESS
horsepower cost a lot of money
for everything else theres honda stupidity and mastercard.
vendor stage 3 6.0 heads = $1825
headers and intake = $2500
misc = $1000
nitrous = $1000
TOTAL = $10,000
watching all the honda guys go running out of the dyno shop after the dyno hits 1000whp for 1.3 seconds then a large explosion and fire everywhere = PRICELESS
horsepower cost a lot of money
for everything else theres honda stupidity and mastercard.
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No way in hell would you be able to do that with an Import. The cars themselves are pretty expensive not to mention the starting point you would be at with their low hp numbers.
Maybe, a big fat maybe, you could do it with a domestic. And yeah even that is leaning towards a no. I mean you can agree that dollar for dollar you are usually gonna yield better results with domestics. Mod for mod even.
I hate import kids like that......... >_>
Maybe, a big fat maybe, you could do it with a domestic. And yeah even that is leaning towards a no. I mean you can agree that dollar for dollar you are usually gonna yield better results with domestics. Mod for mod even.
I hate import kids like that......... >_>
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On top of everything else, even if they could somehow make 1000 reliable wheel hp for $10,000 and they're still gonna get **** slapped up and down the track by the guy who took the same $10,000 and spread it out so that the car would be usable, rather than just put it all toward power.
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All of the turbo kits I've seen for hondas are cheaper than anything I've seen for f-bodies, but 10k for 1000whp...I say something will break almost instantly if it's possible. I may be wrong though. On a side note..."The cars themselves are pretty expensive"...honda's are economy cars for the most part dude, what are you talking about?
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There point of this was they were a bunch of import guys telling me how im an idiot for even thinking about building my domestic, heavy, V8 car. They know guys with 1000whp civics, evos, and sti's that were build on a $10,000 budget. One of the guys said he has rode in one and saw it on the dyno and knows it cost less than 10 grand for the whole car. Another guy also said he can make 8 or 9 hundred whp with his stock Golf for $4500. One of the guys also said that he would use the stock fuel pump on his civic and stock tranny and clutch and make a couple dyno runs to put down 1000whp and then make a couple passes guarented before the stock tranny would go out. This is with a t3/t4 and one guy claimed he could do it on pump gas also. I also had two guys (they just happen to own hondas) get in my face and try to fight me over this whole ordeal. So after an hour or so of argueing I had 6-7 guys butt-hurt and mad because i called BS on them building a 1000whp car for 10 stacks and one guy ready to drive back home and get his daddys 850hp supra to outrun my lid only Z28...
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Gah i hate hard core import guys.. they say they can do it with stock clutch, stock tranny and on pump gas?? i mean really.. how stupid do you have to be to realize that you just cant do that.. maybe if you already have the car, with supporting mods, and then throw 10k into the motor.. MAYBE.. i kinda doubt it would last because it would be torchered with large amount of boost and or nitrous.. IF you could some how get deals on all the parts to do it.. yeah maybe you can throw 10k to a 2j and get it out of it im not sure.. but general ricers (aka the stupid *** 4cyl retards that run around slippin the clutch and revin up cuz they think they look badass..) that is most likely not possible.. not sayin they couldnt do it.. but most likely not..
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am i the only one who thinks it can be done via turbo???
iron block 6.0 - 500-1000
good used rods and pistons - 500
pyramid rings and block machine work- 1000
317 heads that came with 6.o machine work & lightweight hardware- 1000
stock crank ploished -100
super victor- 350
gaskets bearings etc - 300
borg warner large frame s4xx or something - 1000
truck manifolds-50
ebay intercooler kit - 300
watsegate -200
150 shot nitrous kit - 250
c&s blowthru carb or injectors and 4150 t body /factory pcm - 1600
cam - 350
misc parts - 500
grand total so far ???? under 10 k forsure guys
still have around 2 k or so to spend
25 lbs of boost with a 75 0r a 100 shot
1000 horsepower forsure
anyone think differently?
iron block already proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock crank proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock casting heads have made over 1000 hp
iron block 6.0 - 500-1000
good used rods and pistons - 500
pyramid rings and block machine work- 1000
317 heads that came with 6.o machine work & lightweight hardware- 1000
stock crank ploished -100
super victor- 350
gaskets bearings etc - 300
borg warner large frame s4xx or something - 1000
truck manifolds-50
ebay intercooler kit - 300
watsegate -200
150 shot nitrous kit - 250
c&s blowthru carb or injectors and 4150 t body /factory pcm - 1600
cam - 350
misc parts - 500
grand total so far ???? under 10 k forsure guys
still have around 2 k or so to spend
25 lbs of boost with a 75 0r a 100 shot
1000 horsepower forsure
anyone think differently?
iron block already proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock crank proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock casting heads have made over 1000 hp
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am i the only one who thinks it can be done via turbo???
iron block 6.0 - 500-1000
good used rods and pistons - 500
pyramid rings and block machine work- 1000
317 heads that came with 6.o machine work & lightweight hardware- 1000
stock crank ploished -100
super victor- 350
gaskets bearings etc - 300
borg warner large frame s4xx or something - 1000
truck manifolds-50
ebay intercooler kit - 300
watsegate -200
150 shot nitrous kit - 250
c&s blowthru carb or injectors and 4150 t body /factory pcm - 1600
cam - 350
misc parts - 500
grand total so far ???? under 10 k forsure guys
still have around 2 k or so to spend
25 lbs of boost with a 75 0r a 100 shot
1000 horsepower forsure
anyone think differently?
iron block already proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock crank proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock casting heads have made over 1000 hp
iron block 6.0 - 500-1000
good used rods and pistons - 500
pyramid rings and block machine work- 1000
317 heads that came with 6.o machine work & lightweight hardware- 1000
stock crank ploished -100
super victor- 350
gaskets bearings etc - 300
borg warner large frame s4xx or something - 1000
truck manifolds-50
ebay intercooler kit - 300
watsegate -200
150 shot nitrous kit - 250
c&s blowthru carb or injectors and 4150 t body /factory pcm - 1600
cam - 350
misc parts - 500
grand total so far ???? under 10 k forsure guys
still have around 2 k or so to spend
25 lbs of boost with a 75 0r a 100 shot
1000 horsepower forsure
anyone think differently?
iron block already proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock crank proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock casting heads have made over 1000 hp
You still don't have a tune.
Springs/push rods/etc etc etc..
Wasn't the iron block that made that power on an engine dyno? Don't believe that was Rwhp. Same thing with the crack. Could be wrong though.
Like I said, if it that could be done for 10k, we would have tons of them running around. ****, if that was the case 75% of us would have 700+Rwhp cars.
Has anyone seen a "budget build" 1000Rwhp LsX? I sure haven't. There is no cheap way there.
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am i the only one who thinks it can be done via turbo???
iron block 6.0 - 500-1000
good used rods and pistons - 500
pyramid rings and block machine work- 1000
317 heads that came with 6.o machine work & lightweight hardware- 1000
stock crank ploished -100
super victor- 350
gaskets bearings etc - 300
borg warner large frame s4xx or something - 1000
truck manifolds-50
ebay intercooler kit - 300
watsegate -200
150 shot nitrous kit - 250
c&s blowthru carb or injectors and 4150 t body /factory pcm - 1600
cam - 350
misc parts - 500
grand total so far ???? under 10 k forsure guys
still have around 2 k or so to spend
25 lbs of boost with a 75 0r a 100 shot
1000 horsepower forsure
anyone think differently?
iron block already proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock crank proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock casting heads have made over 1000 hp
iron block 6.0 - 500-1000
good used rods and pistons - 500
pyramid rings and block machine work- 1000
317 heads that came with 6.o machine work & lightweight hardware- 1000
stock crank ploished -100
super victor- 350
gaskets bearings etc - 300
borg warner large frame s4xx or something - 1000
truck manifolds-50
ebay intercooler kit - 300
watsegate -200
150 shot nitrous kit - 250
c&s blowthru carb or injectors and 4150 t body /factory pcm - 1600
cam - 350
misc parts - 500
grand total so far ???? under 10 k forsure guys
still have around 2 k or so to spend
25 lbs of boost with a 75 0r a 100 shot
1000 horsepower forsure
anyone think differently?
iron block already proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock crank proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock casting heads have made over 1000 hp
"1000 hosrsepower forsure... I think differently"
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3 walboro 255's will more than handle that horsepower - 300
my buddy has only 2 - 255s and has made 983 at the wheels ( 2003 cobra twin 57mm's completely stock engine , cover of 5.0 magazine next month for KOTS. white vert )
it was like 1350 at the crank if ur thinking of the same thread where he used stock block crank and heads
pushrods used -200
dyno tune -500
still have a thousand to go bro....................
it can be done . most people spend the money in the wrong spots
and i guess u giuys didnt see the part where i said 1k for head hardware . hardware would mean springs retainers locks valves etc...
my buddy has only 2 - 255s and has made 983 at the wheels ( 2003 cobra twin 57mm's completely stock engine , cover of 5.0 magazine next month for KOTS. white vert )
it was like 1350 at the crank if ur thinking of the same thread where he used stock block crank and heads
pushrods used -200
dyno tune -500
still have a thousand to go bro....................
it can be done . most people spend the money in the wrong spots
and i guess u giuys didnt see the part where i said 1k for head hardware . hardware would mean springs retainers locks valves etc...
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3 walboro 255's will more than handle that horsepower - 300
my buddy has only 2 - 255s and has made 983 at the wheels ( 2003 cobra twin 57mm's completely stock engine , cover of 5.0 magazine next month for KOTS. white vert )
it was like 1350 at the crank if ur thinking of the same thread where he used stock block crank and heads
pushrods used -200
dyno tune -500
still have a thousand to go bro....................
it can be done . most people spend the money in the wrong spots
and i guess u giuys didnt see the part where i said 1k for head hardware . hardware would mean springs retainers locks valves etc...
my buddy has only 2 - 255s and has made 983 at the wheels ( 2003 cobra twin 57mm's completely stock engine , cover of 5.0 magazine next month for KOTS. white vert )
it was like 1350 at the crank if ur thinking of the same thread where he used stock block crank and heads
pushrods used -200
dyno tune -500
still have a thousand to go bro....................
it can be done . most people spend the money in the wrong spots
and i guess u giuys didnt see the part where i said 1k for head hardware . hardware would mean springs retainers locks valves etc...
Again, if it only costs 10k, why don't more people have them on here? 1000Rwhp cars are far and few between and there are some pretty serious cars on here. You could hit 700-800Rwhp with that.. But that extra 200-300Rwhp is going to take a LOT to get there. Just like going from 8.8 to 8.5.
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well go thru the for sale section and add up the parts you could buy for the build
do it all used parts or parts for sale new that someone never used. add assembling the engine your self for free
machine work
dyno tuning
yes i agree you would need a turbo 400 and converter and a 12 bolt but these are on here all the time for a dime a dozen man
hell just to put things in perspective you could buy a totalled vehicle and part it out and use the engine and pcm and harness and sell the rest of the parts and get your starting point for free
10k is a big budget for most people and i think if u had the car already it could be done
if you didnt have the car it wouldnt happen
add the stuff up and go from there
this should be interesting
do it all used parts or parts for sale new that someone never used. add assembling the engine your self for free
machine work
dyno tuning
yes i agree you would need a turbo 400 and converter and a 12 bolt but these are on here all the time for a dime a dozen man
hell just to put things in perspective you could buy a totalled vehicle and part it out and use the engine and pcm and harness and sell the rest of the parts and get your starting point for free
10k is a big budget for most people and i think if u had the car already it could be done
if you didnt have the car it wouldnt happen
add the stuff up and go from there
this should be interesting
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3 walboro 255's will more than handle that horsepower - 300
my buddy has only 2 - 255s and has made 983 at the wheels ( 2003 cobra twin 57mm's completely stock engine , cover of 5.0 magazine next month for KOTS. white vert )
it was like 1350 at the crank if ur thinking of the same thread where he used stock block crank and heads
pushrods used -200
dyno tune -500
still have a thousand to go bro....................
it can be done . most people spend the money in the wrong spots
and i guess u giuys didnt see the part where i said 1k for head hardware . hardware would mean springs retainers locks valves etc...
my buddy has only 2 - 255s and has made 983 at the wheels ( 2003 cobra twin 57mm's completely stock engine , cover of 5.0 magazine next month for KOTS. white vert )
it was like 1350 at the crank if ur thinking of the same thread where he used stock block crank and heads
pushrods used -200
dyno tune -500
still have a thousand to go bro....................
it can be done . most people spend the money in the wrong spots
and i guess u giuys didnt see the part where i said 1k for head hardware . hardware would mean springs retainers locks valves etc...
"1000 horsepower forsure... I STILL think differently"
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like i said if you have a vehicle with all supporting mods, and have 10k to spend on a motor alone, you may be able to do it if your good with finding deals, and know the recipe.. otherwise.. most ppl its not gonna happen.. like i said i have around 14k-15k in my car in just parts alone hardly any labor involved in that cuz i do most of my own stuff other than machine work.. and i still dont have a rear end im making around 500rwhp.. and i didnt spend money in the wrong spots..
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misc parts 500= bolts etc......
nitrous controller of what? hit a button ! ur only spraying a 75 shot for air charge cooling!
tranny and converter u can find for 1 k all day used
you guys need to be realistic and start adding stuff up used
it can be done
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well go thru the for sale section and add up the parts you could buy for the build
do it all used parts or parts for sale new that someone never used. add assembling the engine your self for free
machine work
dyno tuning
yes i agree you would need a turbo 400 and converter and a 12 bolt but these are on here all the time for a dime a dozen man
hell just to put things in perspective you could buy a totalled vehicle and part it out and use the engine and pcm and harness and sell the rest of the parts and get your starting point for free
10k is a big budget for most people and i think if u had the car already it could be done
if you didnt have the car it wouldnt happen
add the stuff up and go from there
this should be interesting
do it all used parts or parts for sale new that someone never used. add assembling the engine your self for free
machine work
dyno tuning
yes i agree you would need a turbo 400 and converter and a 12 bolt but these are on here all the time for a dime a dozen man
hell just to put things in perspective you could buy a totalled vehicle and part it out and use the engine and pcm and harness and sell the rest of the parts and get your starting point for free
10k is a big budget for most people and i think if u had the car already it could be done
if you didnt have the car it wouldnt happen
add the stuff up and go from there
this should be interesting
I had a buddy with a fully paid for car so basically had a "free" starting point. He put around an extra 15-20k in his car and spraying a 300 shot was right at 800Rwhp.. He had no where near enough support fuel wise to go to 1000Rwhp.
You are talking about USED parts and normal off the shelf parts for a 1000Rwhp build. I sure as **** wouldn't invest in something like that, no way no how. And you are shooting for 1000Rwhp through a stalled turbo 400.
You *think* it can be done. Show me ONE person that has done it.
Let me ask you this... How many cars have you built period?