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Old 04-07-2010, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
"Granny shifting, not double clutching when you're supposed to...." ricer excuses?
As stated get some sticky tires and a clutch, then dust yourself off and try again!
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Thanks for posting up the track numbers. I figured they weren't what you were expecting when the excuses came before the numbers, but definite props for posting them. Like they said, get some tires and give it another shot.

I'd still be interested to see the numbers it puts out on a Dynojet.
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
it also doesnt help that I was granny shifting on a stock clutch, leaving soft, and shifting out around 5700 to play it safe..
Do you remember this statement below?

Originally Posted by soundengineer

I take data from HP Tuners..export the log to a .csv file...use my sheet to auto import data and sort it...
enter in weather data, some vehicle specific things(weight/tires/tranny info)
and it spits out HP/TQ #'s in a graph based on that data... and it also calculates an optimum shift point for your setup as well.

right now my optimum shift point for this stock cam and my mods is at 5700 rpm.
Dude, shift that bitch as high as you can without tagging the rev limiter. And if you were going by the stock tach and saying you were shifting at 5700, then you were indeed shifting HIGHER than that. The stock tach can't keep up for ****. Get a shift light, you'll love it!

When my car was BONE stock except for a lid, I trapped 108.96 with a stock clutch the VERY first time I took it to the track. What power did it make to trap that and run 12.9? 321rwhp/331rwtq....

My cars trap speed remained virtually the same whether I launched and spun, bogged, or just took off easy. Whether I bogged and 60 ft'd a 1.8 or 1.9 trying to keep the Nittos from spinning, or launched it at 5k lifting the tires and pulling 1.5s, my car trapped right at 122 (heads/cam).

As far as you "granny shifting", I didn't power shift my car when it was trapping 113s with some bolt-ons making 354rwhp/373rwtq.
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great numbers! My H/C package doesnt even see that torque and barely any more hp!
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
no dyno....

but...

poor track prep (in my opinion...lots of people having issues)
my street tires that don't hook at the line for Jack ****
and I need a real clutch instead of this stock one.... a Monster Stage 3 with Tick Master is coming soon

DA at the track = 2094


all in all with the above problems

12.94@109.77 has been the best I could muster up tonight

I've been trapping 108/109 mph all night long
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it also doesnt help that I was granny shifting on a stock clutch, leaving soft, and shifting out around 5700 to play it safe..
Yep....

Just an FYI, my 01 put down 35x/35x (dont remember exacts ATM) and went 112mph at night here in the summer (3k DA, 91 octane, etc.) And I too was shifting around 57-5800 per the stock tach
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I'm using a shift light... not the stock tach...
and because of the stock clutch/master combo its a real slow "granny shift" as I call it...

and yes...5700-5800 is ideal shift on a stock cam in a 2001 Camaro.
I put more power down to the wheels in 2nd gear after the shift than if I took it out to 6100 in first... and that figures in Gear Multiplication factors.

and yeah..1st gear is pointless... I considered loading it up and launching in 2nd...

60' sucked...couldnt cut one below 2.1x

theres easily 2-3 mph more in it with how I'm driving it...

I actualy had one slip that showed a 112mph( I was the only one that ran that run...seemed like everybody else was taking a break)... but I considered it either a mistake or a fluke and I was basically 109 all night long


FYI... I'm not a newb... I used to race a 6.5sec 200mph car... I lost it end over end on ESPN back in 2001...
I just am not about to break something because somebody on here wants me to prove something...
this is my daily driver... that when I am finished.. will be somewhere in the 650hp range to the wheels and a lot of fun on the street
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
I'm using a shift light... not the stock tach...
and because of the stock clutch/master combo its a real slow "granny shift" as I call it...

and yes...5700-5800 is ideal shift on a stock cam in a 2001 Camaro.
I put more power down to the wheels in 2nd gear after the shift than if I took it out to 6100 in first... and that figures in Gear Multiplication factors.

and yeah..1st gear is pointless... I considered loading it up and launching in 2nd...

60' sucked...couldnt cut one below 2.1x

theres easily 2-3 mph more in it with how I'm driving it...

I actualy had one slip that showed a 112mph( I was the only one that ran that run...seemed like everybody else was taking a break)... but I considered it either a mistake or a fluke and I was basically 109 all night long


FYI... I'm not a newb... I used to race a 6.5sec 200mph car... I lost it end over end on ESPN back in 2001...
I just am not about to break something because somebody on here wants me to prove something...
this is my daily driver... that when I am finished.. will be somewhere in the 650hp range to the wheels and a lot of fun on the street
Try not to take the criticism of your numbers and results as anything more than constructive. That and I believe most of us are trying to bring you back to reality with regards to making almost 400rwtq with stock internals. Either way, best of luck man!
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I've seen a couple of stock ls1's run in a range of 13.0 with just bolt-on's

nice numbers nice combo .. u need a stronger clutch and stronger Tires !

good Luck ..
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Even if you pick up 3 mph over that 109 you were hitting all night, that would still just show "average" bolt-on power. Thanks for posting up the times and traps.



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