2011 GT dyno results...
The stock 5.0 and a stock LS3 are basically twins in the HP war, that will **** off a bunch of new Camaro's. 68 cubic inch advantage and the same horsepower, hmmm, I guess Ford finally stepped it up. Should be fun at the track this summer.
The one thing that noone's mentioning, is that Ford did one thing right with that car that both GM and Chrysler didn't... a solid rear axle. These cars will be 10000 times better at the track just because of that, and nothing else.
GM better get a 12 bolt under that new camaro and fast or it's gonna be lights out.
GM better get a 12 bolt under that new camaro and fast or it's gonna be lights out.
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People can say all they want about the new mustang,but that motor is solid.I raced one at the track the 5.0 mods
Dr's and skinny's
456 gear
suspension
stock tune and nothing done to the motor
It ran 12.3.It's running as fast as my full bolt on ls1.
Oh yeah and they already went 9.96 at 137mph with bolt ons and I think like a 250 shot.
Dr's and skinny's
456 gear
suspension
stock tune and nothing done to the motor
It ran 12.3.It's running as fast as my full bolt on ls1.
Oh yeah and they already went 9.96 at 137mph with bolt ons and I think like a 250 shot.
Good work Mike and Johan! You guys have tuners ready to ship? You forgot to mention you have a very conservative dyno. 
2011 GT is an amazing car, can't wait to see an M6 with a Kenne Bell!
2011 GT is an amazing car, can't wait to see an M6 with a Kenne Bell!
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Wow, sounds like some cam only or mild h/c/i ls1 cars as far as rwhp to weight *3600lbs or so? 392rwhp sounds good for that weight, and that solid rear axle with gears seems to really shine.
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Published weight for the 5.0 is 3603 lbs. That is with a full tank of fuel, base GT. A racer from one of the Ford Forums put his on the scale soon after he got it. These are the results:
Just weighed my 2011 Mustang GT Base (300A) w/ Manual 6-Speed.
Only Option is 3.55 Gears. This is not a Spoiler Delete Car.
Dry Shipping Weight (MSO): 3461 lb
Curb Weight - Light (3 gal of Fuel): 3520 lb
Weight Distr: 1920 lb (54.5%) F / 1600 lb (45.5%) R
Curb Weight - Full (16 gal of Fuel): 3600 lb
Weight Distr: 1940 lb (53.9%) F / 1660 lb (46.1%) R
That was on a Certified Scale that weighs individual axles and total seperately.
Should be accurate +/- 10 lb.
Weights without Driver
Just weighed my 2011 Mustang GT Base (300A) w/ Manual 6-Speed.
Only Option is 3.55 Gears. This is not a Spoiler Delete Car.
Dry Shipping Weight (MSO): 3461 lb
Curb Weight - Light (3 gal of Fuel): 3520 lb
Weight Distr: 1920 lb (54.5%) F / 1600 lb (45.5%) R
Curb Weight - Full (16 gal of Fuel): 3600 lb
Weight Distr: 1940 lb (53.9%) F / 1660 lb (46.1%) R
That was on a Certified Scale that weighs individual axles and total seperately.
Should be accurate +/- 10 lb.
Weights without Driver
I am a true ls guy, love the engines, love the cars, but that new mustang has the new camaro beat all day long. They's have to offer an ls7 or ls9 motor in a new camaro to even remotely get me interested in buying one, and they'd have to do that, at the same price the SS is selling for.
I buy a car tomorrow it's gonna be a new GT, hate to say it but there's just no way I'd buy anything else.
It would be an auto car too, and would have 3.73 gears, the biggest radial tire on it I can fit without mollesting the car, full exhaust, intake, converter, biggest tranny cooler I can find, and a 150 hit on it, probably about 5 minutes after I pull it in the garage, followed by all the bolt on suspension stuff, simply because I'm about 99% sure that with the factory results, I can get that to go about a 11.5 on motor with those mods and probably a 10.50 with a little hit. That to me makes for a fun street car.
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I am a true ls guy, love the engines, love the cars, but that new mustang has the new camaro beat all day long. They's have to offer an ls7 or ls9 motor in a new camaro to even remotely get me interested in buying one, and they'd have to do that, at the same price the SS is selling for.
I buy a car tomorrow it's gonna be a new GT, hate to say it but there's just no way I'd buy anything else.
I've driven a handful of new Camaros, stock and modified, and one drive in the stang and I was hooked.
It was like the first time I ever got in a old 5.0 all over again...
The only people that are doing that are the ones that are pissed that it's faster then the camaro and challenger by a mile, most likly the guys that want to, or already have purchased one of the others.
I am a true ls guy, love the engines, love the cars, but that new mustang has the new camaro beat all day long. They's have to offer an ls7 or ls9 motor in a new camaro to even remotely get me interested in buying one, and they'd have to do that, at the same price the SS is selling for.
I buy a car tomorrow it's gonna be a new GT, hate to say it but there's just no way I'd buy anything else.
It would be an auto car too, and would have 3.73 gears, the biggest radial tire on it I can fit without mollesting the car, full exhaust, intake, converter, biggest tranny cooler I can find, and a 150 hit on it, probably about 5 minutes after I pull it in the garage, followed by all the bolt on suspension stuff, simply because I'm about 99% sure that with the factory results, I can get that to go about a 11.5 on motor with those mods and probably a 10.50 with a little hit. That to me makes for a fun street car.
I am a true ls guy, love the engines, love the cars, but that new mustang has the new camaro beat all day long. They's have to offer an ls7 or ls9 motor in a new camaro to even remotely get me interested in buying one, and they'd have to do that, at the same price the SS is selling for.
I buy a car tomorrow it's gonna be a new GT, hate to say it but there's just no way I'd buy anything else.
It would be an auto car too, and would have 3.73 gears, the biggest radial tire on it I can fit without mollesting the car, full exhaust, intake, converter, biggest tranny cooler I can find, and a 150 hit on it, probably about 5 minutes after I pull it in the garage, followed by all the bolt on suspension stuff, simply because I'm about 99% sure that with the factory results, I can get that to go about a 11.5 on motor with those mods and probably a 10.50 with a little hit. That to me makes for a fun street car.
GT has smaller wheels, Solid axle, smaller brakes. There will never be a LS7 Camaro, but there will be a LS9 Z28 but its gonna cost the same as the Shelby GT500. So you can shop for your new GT already!
I think the new Camaro is an impressive platform and car plp here are so all over the new GT its unbelievable.
This is a L99 auto tuned with CAI; very impressive and faster than the GT with the weaker L99;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXQY7brY4-Y
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Neat video - a modified SS beat a stock GT. Cool. Note that the unmodified GT had a worse 60 ft and a better mph.
Also....2012 Z28 (if it is built, and it looks like it will be) will almost certainly have the LSA, not the LS9.
Also....2012 Z28 (if it is built, and it looks like it will be) will almost certainly have the LSA, not the LS9.
Plp are posting 9sec 5.0l with a mothershot of Nitrous and nobody says nothing. Lets keep the 5.0l love fest going on.
Yep, my mistake; LSa over LS9, thanks for correction.
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Not being a smart *** (yet) - just stating facts. 5.0s have been picking up 35+ RWHP with a tune and a CAI. Think that might make a bit of a difference? What are LS3s picking up with a CAI and tune?
Sorry you're all riled up about the 5.0. Must suck to be you (now that's a smart-*** comment....not a very original one, but hey, its the middle of the afternoon, its hot out, and I need a nap).
Sorry you're all riled up about the 5.0. Must suck to be you (now that's a smart-*** comment....not a very original one, but hey, its the middle of the afternoon, its hot out, and I need a nap).
Not being a smart *** (yet) - just stating facts. 5.0s have been picking up 35+ RWHP with a tune and a CAI. Think that might make a bit of a difference? What are LS3s picking up with a CAI and tune?
Sorry you're all riled up about the 5.0. Must suck to be you (now that's a smart-*** comment....not a very original one, but hey, its the middle of the afternoon, its hot out, and I need a nap).
Sorry you're all riled up about the 5.0. Must suck to be you (now that's a smart-*** comment....not a very original one, but hey, its the middle of the afternoon, its hot out, and I need a nap).
Honestly I dont really care and most of all I'm not hurt or anything even if I might sound like that. I'll even tell you that I wouldnt mind owning a 5.0l, but the thing is I prefer Camaro style BIG time and I have a base knowledge on LS engines. So the Mustang is a no go for me.
Still, never said it was slow, or bad or not impressive. Its a sick engine, but LS3 is superior in power department IMO.
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Can you really say the car picked up a full second, or was it the driver or that run?
.1 on the 60ft is worth .2 in the 1/4.
I also picked up full second while changing a tune at the track from my previous run, did the car really pick up a full second? definitely not.
livernois ran damn near 14 seconds and then 14 seconds on that camaro stock, don't you find that odd?
l99 camaro's have 400hp and all they run is 14 seconds? really? lol you don't watch for weird stuff like that do you?
.1 on the 60ft is worth .2 in the 1/4.
I also picked up full second while changing a tune at the track from my previous run, did the car really pick up a full second? definitely not.
livernois ran damn near 14 seconds and then 14 seconds on that camaro stock, don't you find that odd?
l99 camaro's have 400hp and all they run is 14 seconds? really? lol you don't watch for weird stuff like that do you?
Last edited by fdjizm; Jun 22, 2010 at 01:33 PM.