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Old 07-29-2010, 11:57 PM
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Default Question about my Factory Freak WS6: 343/361

I had my 2002 WS6 M6 dyno'd at Straightline Performance on the 28th of June. I was estimating my car to put down 325/330. I was blown away when Mike said she put down 343/361.

323.8 @ 5505 RPM/ SAE Corrected: 342.5
341.5 @ 3994 RPM/ SAE Corrected: 360.8

Mods:
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-Ported TB
-Exhaust Cut-out before the axle

Everything else is stock. Stock 241's, stock pulley, stock LS6 intake, stock exhaust manifolds, stock y-pipe and stock catback. They did swap out the fuel injectors for 42 pound injectors for the 175 shot nitrous tune that didn't go as planned (Nitrous solenoid was leaking). I was also lugging 17 x 10.5" TTM's with 315 Nitto 555R's.

StraightLine Performance uses a Mustang Dyno and not a DynoJet also.


Now what I was wondering, could the dealer have put in a LS2 in my vehicle? I spun a bearing during '07 and thank God for warranties they covered it. They replaced the block and rotating assembly. I am jus' speculating at this point but how could I tell the difference between the LS1 block and the LS2 block?

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I guess an LS2 shortblock is a possibility. That would explain the numbers. I really only think you're 10-15 hp/tq higher than you should be.
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100% its not a LS2 cause they'll have to get a custom aftermarket harness for it and thats not the kind of things a dealer want to do, plus custom tune the thing with LS6 intake and other non LS2 parts like heads and ****..

Just a good running LS1 with LS6 intake and some minor mods.
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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
100% its not a LS2 cause they'll have to get a custom aftermarket harness for it and thats not the kind of things a dealer want to do, plus custom tune the thing with LS6 intake and other non LS2 parts like heads and ****..

Just a good running LS1 with LS6 intake and some minor mods.
Even if, hypothetically speaking, they jus' replaced the block itself?
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Nice numbers though.
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pull the trans, lol the L size is stamped on the back of the block.
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Originally Posted by 02TransAm/Batmobile
Even if, hypothetically speaking, they jus' replaced the block itself?
yes because the crankshaft sensor reluctor is moved from the rear of the camshaft(LS1-6) to the upper timing gear. So you need different timing cover/gear. Thats why you would have a cam/knock sensor wiring harness extension kit..Plus in 2007, most Gen IV had the 58x reluctor and 4x timing gear instead of 24x/2x. So you would need a new 06+ PCM along with that cause Gen III are not compatible with 05+ 58x stuff.

Crankshaft/cam sensors are black for 24x/2x Gen III and light grey for Gen IV 58x/4x if you wanna verify without opening something. Plus knock are on the side of the block for Gen IV instead of under intake for Gen III.
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sounds to me more more like something was wrong with the correction factor
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
sounds to me more more like something was wrong with the correction factor
I would tend to agree with this...take it to the track and see if the mph for the weight and da conditions is high...

I plan on hitting Byron up in a few weeks after I get the trans back in...
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Yeah you made 13 more hp than my car did with just full exhaust. and its a mustang dyno. I'd want some dynojet numbers to brag about after that Congrats
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Ok, I looked up the paperwork from '07 and they did install an LS1 block in. I also found out that instead of replacing the LS6 clutch, they swapped in an LS1 clutch instead.

Maybe the correction factor was off, I don't know. It was tuned by Mike and Straightline who is an awesome tuner. He was tweaking the tunes of 2 other cars before me on that particular day. One was my friend's brother's WS6 M6 and put down 430-something with:

T-Rex Cam
FAST 90/90
Ported 243's
ASP Pulley
Headers
Borla Catback

Seems jus' a tad lower than I would have thought it would put down. Mike was surprised with the results too and said I was putting out what Lid, Exhaust and Header F-Bodies put down.
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dyno numbers varies from dyno to dyno...some are stingy, others are not so stingy. If I had numbers out of the norm and really wanted to know what it was making, id take it to a few other dyno's to see what numbers it made.
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Originally Posted by 30th t/a
dyno numbers varies from dyno to dyno...some are stingy, others are not so stingy. If I had numbers out of the norm and really wanted to know what it was making, id take it to a few other dyno's to see what numbers it made.
Exactly. A dyno is true to only to itself. The numbers are not meant to be cross examined. The idea behind the dyno is the same conditions each and every time to facilitate tuning, no matter what the conditions are.
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go to the strip or race some cars that have been to the strip .
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Sorry don't like mustang dynos for anything other than tuning. Too easy to just play with the numbers. Local mustang dyno place first said they set it to "dynojet equivalent",then said they set it to mustang setting and then said they set it to "where it felt right". Buddies car put out less power the second time then first and he added mods.
Just go to a dynojet but doubt your car is a real freak. Not many of them out there.I would think 340 to 350 rwhp on dynojet with lid,cutout and ported tb are very doable the 2002 are known for around 325hp in six speed form,pretty common for them.Especially with some tuning ,factory sets up these cars pretty darn rich and leaves power on the table.
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I wouldn't compare dyno numbers from different dynos. Just not reliable enough.
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Default I have a 2002 z28 and no numbers on the block.

Originally Posted by 13lu91rS
pull the trans, lol the L size is stamped on the back of the block.
I also put down almost identical HP/TQ numbers as OP with same modes.


car is also and m6 and it was dynoed on a dyno com
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I wanna know what you will run at the track
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^This!
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At that hp what do you guys think he will run meaning MPH at the track given the conditions are good and he is driving it like he should, 112mph Maybe ?


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