All LSX results here...
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All LSX results here... OK This is just for people/sponsor to post up their results of the LSX testing. Post dyno graphs/results and the mods on the car and if any tuning was done to it. This is simply to save people from searching all over the forum to find the numbers, this way its all right there to compair. If you start up your own thread at least post results here.
PLEASE, nothing other than info on here....no debates lol
PLEASE, nothing other than info on here....no debates lol
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Slowhawk's posted results, hope you dont mind
Originally Posted by Slowhawk
I brought my car to the dyno and switched out the 78mm LSX.After doing 8 dyno pulls with the LS6 to make sure I tuned for the most HP I switched to the LSX.Then I tuned the LSX for the most power.
Before # 421hp/388tq
After # 432hp/394tq
There was hp and tq gain across the whole rev range.I have the dyno sheet that will be posted later.All in all I'm very impressed with the power.From what I see the TB is a major restriction.Can't wait till the 90mm version.I definitly feel a big difference in drivability,much crisper throttle response.
Mods
MTI lid
ported MAF
ported TB
TR236/230 cam
ported LS6 heads 2.02/1.60 valves
ASP pulley
FLP headers with ORP
Denny's nitrous driveshaft
Strange 12 bolt with 4.11's
Ls1 Edit
Before # 421hp/388tq
After # 432hp/394tq
There was hp and tq gain across the whole rev range.I have the dyno sheet that will be posted later.All in all I'm very impressed with the power.From what I see the TB is a major restriction.Can't wait till the 90mm version.I definitly feel a big difference in drivability,much crisper throttle response.
Mods
MTI lid
ported MAF
ported TB
TR236/230 cam
ported LS6 heads 2.02/1.60 valves
ASP pulley
FLP headers with ORP
Denny's nitrous driveshaft
Strange 12 bolt with 4.11's
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Texas Speed's posted results, hope they dont mind lol
Originally Posted by Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.
Here are a few pics for some entertainment. 
Car Used: '02 Camaro SS Convertible A4
- 346 cid, TSP induction lid, K&N air filter, TSP Sleeper Cam, stock cylinder heads, stock exhaust manifolds, stock cats, Corsa cat-back exhaust, TCI 3500 Super Street Fighter torque converter
We baselined the car with three pulls before swapping the intakes. We used a stock GM throttle body on the LS6 and LSX intakes. We made two runs with the converter unlocked and one with it locked. With the LS6 intake and locked converter, it put down 342.1 RWHP and 338 RWTQ. (Don't compare the peak torque readings listed since it's from a flash when stabbing the throttle.)
After swapping to the 78mm LSX intake manifold, we used the same dyno procedures. With the new intake manifold and locked converter, it put down a best of 344.7 RWHP and 337.2 RWTQ. You can see the graph comparison below:
We are going to test the intake manifolds on other cars, ranging from heads/cam setups and full bolt-on cam-only cars to stroker engines. The results don't seem too promising on a mostly stock engine, but we'll see how it fares on more modified setups. We'll be testing out the 90mm version once we receive the 90mm throttle bodies.
Trevor
Texas Speed & Performance
Car Used: '02 Camaro SS Convertible A4
- 346 cid, TSP induction lid, K&N air filter, TSP Sleeper Cam, stock cylinder heads, stock exhaust manifolds, stock cats, Corsa cat-back exhaust, TCI 3500 Super Street Fighter torque converter
We baselined the car with three pulls before swapping the intakes. We used a stock GM throttle body on the LS6 and LSX intakes. We made two runs with the converter unlocked and one with it locked. With the LS6 intake and locked converter, it put down 342.1 RWHP and 338 RWTQ. (Don't compare the peak torque readings listed since it's from a flash when stabbing the throttle.)
After swapping to the 78mm LSX intake manifold, we used the same dyno procedures. With the new intake manifold and locked converter, it put down a best of 344.7 RWHP and 337.2 RWTQ. You can see the graph comparison below:
We are going to test the intake manifolds on other cars, ranging from heads/cam setups and full bolt-on cam-only cars to stroker engines. The results don't seem too promising on a mostly stock engine, but we'll see how it fares on more modified setups. We'll be testing out the 90mm version once we receive the 90mm throttle bodies.
Trevor
Texas Speed & Performance
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Thunder's testing...
Originally Posted by Angie
Ok, Here's the results of the first car we are testing it on....This is Jason99T/A's car and he will post his mods below...basically, it's a cam/stock heads car w/ bolt on's that already had an LS6 intake manifold. Two more cars will be tested this afternoon....
more pics...
http://www.thunderracing.com/images/...inderports.jpg
http://www.thunderracing.com/images/fastinstalled1.jpg
http://www.thunderracing.com/images/fastinstalled.jpg
http://www.thunderracing.com/images/fastwithrails.jpg
more pics...
http://www.thunderracing.com/images/...inderports.jpg
http://www.thunderracing.com/images/fastinstalled1.jpg
http://www.thunderracing.com/images/fastinstalled.jpg
http://www.thunderracing.com/images/fastwithrails.jpg
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MTI's results...
Originally Posted by 2000SS
Inital Results: 7.4 HP gain over an LS6 Intake on a 427 CID F-Body.
This was the 78MM version with ported stock TB, bolted on with no changes to tuning or anything else on the vehicle.
We'll continue the fine tuning this afternoon and post more results as we generate then.
- Wayne, David and Jayson at Motorsport Technologies
This was the 78MM version with ported stock TB, bolted on with no changes to tuning or anything else on the vehicle.
We'll continue the fine tuning this afternoon and post more results as we generate then.
- Wayne, David and Jayson at Motorsport Technologies
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other Thunder testing...
Originally Posted by Angie
OK, Here's the graph vs a stock LS1 intake. The car is a 2000 SS w/ pulley, ported tb, Borla cat-back, Whisper lid and that's it. NO other changes were made except for the manifold.
Yes, That's 20.3 horsepower & 17.5 torque!
Angie
Yes, That's 20.3 horsepower & 17.5 torque!
Angie
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Thunder testing part 3...
Originally Posted by Angie
Here's the graph from Shane's car....unfortunately, we have not had time to do any tuning on it even before the intake was installed. It would also be an interesting test to see what it would do after the car was tuned w/ the LS6 and then tuning it again w/ the FAST to see if any gains could be made. We're pulling it off of Shane's car today and it will be on a stock 2003 Z06 tomorrow morning (w/ just a Vararam & Exhaust.)
Angie
Angie
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From: Cecil County Raceway!!!
Originally Posted by Magyver
11 to 20 horses...not bad. How much is the next question?
Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
OK This is just for people/sponsor to post up their results of the LSX testing. Post dyno graphs/results and the mods on the car and if any tuning was done to it. This is simply to save people from searching all over the forum to find the numbers, this way its all right there to compair. If you start up your own thread at least post results here.
PLEASE, nothing other than info on here....no debates lol
PLEASE, nothing other than info on here....no debates lol
Engine: 3.625 stroke, 4.125 bore, CNC heads, 244-250 @ .050 .612 .620 at 113 lsa.
1 3/4 dyno long tube headers, FAST controller, 13-1 average AF
First test ZO6 manifold and throttlebody.
average numbers are 3000-6500
peak hp 559 @ 6400 peak tq 525 @ 5000 Average hp 440 av tq 483
second test Fast manifold with stock throttlebody
peak hp 571 @ 6500 peak tq 525 @5100 average hp 444.9 av tq 488.3
third test fast 90mm manifold with 90mm throttlebody
peak hp 585 @6500 peak tq 535 @ 5100 average hp 451.9 av tq 495.2
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From: Cecil County Raceway!!!
Originally Posted by 427
Engine dyno
Engine: 3.625 stroke, 4.125 bore, CNC heads, 244-250 @ .050 .612 .620 at 113 lsa.
1 3/4 dyno long tube headers, FAST controller, 13-1 average AF
First test ZO6 manifold and throttlebody.
average numbers are 3000-6500
peak hp 559 @ 6400 peak tq 525 @ 5000 Average hp 440 av tq 483
second test Fast manifold with stock throttlebody
peak hp 571 @ 6500 peak tq 525 @5100 average hp 444.9 av tq 488.3
third test fast 90mm manifold with 90mm throttlebody
peak hp 585 @6500 peak tq 535 @ 5100 average hp 451.9 av tq 495.2
Kurt
Engine: 3.625 stroke, 4.125 bore, CNC heads, 244-250 @ .050 .612 .620 at 113 lsa.
1 3/4 dyno long tube headers, FAST controller, 13-1 average AF
First test ZO6 manifold and throttlebody.
average numbers are 3000-6500
peak hp 559 @ 6400 peak tq 525 @ 5000 Average hp 440 av tq 483
second test Fast manifold with stock throttlebody
peak hp 571 @ 6500 peak tq 525 @5100 average hp 444.9 av tq 488.3
third test fast 90mm manifold with 90mm throttlebody
peak hp 585 @6500 peak tq 535 @ 5100 average hp 451.9 av tq 495.2
Kurt
what 90mm TB did you use?
Originally Posted by Reckless
All that technology and you can't post a dyno graph Kurt? 
If you want dyno graph you will have to post it...give me fax # that I CAN handle.LOL
Kurt
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Question.. WIll the 90mm throttle body and the Lsx 90mm manifiold give a 02 Z28 stock form any power? IF I changed the pulleys .. What kind of power would I be seeing.. I have the Lid mod .. I also have flomaster exhaust... does anyone no what kind of power my car would push... thanks
P.s what brand of headers give most performance? Are they reccomneded? thanks
steve
P.s what brand of headers give most performance? Are they reccomneded? thanks
steve
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
PLEASE, nothing other than info on here....no debates lol
