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Old 09-30-2010, 09:58 AM
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Default Dyno results: EPS cam w/ stock 243 heads.

Cam is 222/226 113 lsa- bolt ons: full exhaust | UD pulley | MTI lid | LS6 intake with 28.8lb inj. Temp was 58*, partly cloudy.

I'll post the graphs after I get it scanned.

I'm not too impress with the tuner that I went with, I dunno. Looking at the graph, he took the conservative route, way conservative.. He even left the rev limit at 6K. He does know his stuff though. He build LS engines for vauxhalls and installs maggie kits and TVS systems and tunes them.

Dynamometer is Dyno Dynamics. I read somewhere that is pretty conservative on the numbers it puts out. I'm not too sure if its this conservative.

The best pull was 488 HP/ 440 TQ, yeah those are the numbers but the one he printed out was 437 HP/ 434 TQ the catch is: These numbers are the FLYWHEEL. I was like WTF? Really? I asked him how are these numbers pulling up were there is one that dynoed 430 RWHP? He said maybe its a happy dyno?

He then showed me the print out of the RWHP which is 357.6 RWHP/ 355 RWTQ. Again that wasn't the max pull, the best pull I saw was 361 RWHP.

The AFR is at 13+ on part throttle til 2.5K RPM then it goes to 12.5 to 11.7 @ 4K rpm and then goes up to 12 @ 4.5K RPM and down gradually to 11.7 again.

He did at least 25+ pulls to dyno tune my car so he meticulously tuned the car up to his standards. The tune is great... maybe not the best performance? The car pulls really well through out the RPM and every shift.

And for those people who keeps saying every cam and heads you need to upgrade your injectors, FYI: the duty cycle of my inj's at 6K rpm were @ 88%, 28.8lb.

BTW, does anybody know why my car misfires on NGK iridium plugs? gapped @ .04. Tuner swapped it out w/ NGK copper tip and gapped them to .08 and purrs on idle.

Oh and I have vids. I'll post them as soon as I get them DL'd to youtube.
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seems low for a m6... should be north of 400whp but those dyno dynamics read all over the place. Track it and see what it traps... Id say it should trap atleast 117+ plus in good air with that setup.
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Here are the pics...









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Vids...

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440RWHP would sound right but not 361. That seems way low. Are there any other dynos in the area you could try?
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Got any before numbers?
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Originally Posted by BaddBird
Got any before numbers?
My before dyno was when the car was stalled auto minus the UD pulley and on half tune... 318 rwhp/317 rwtq.
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Originally Posted by bene
My before dyno was when the car was stalled auto minus the UD pulley and on half tune... 318 rwhp/317 rwtq.
These numbers look low as well. But as long is it trap a good mph (118+) you should be ^ 400rwhp
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Here are some more vids

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Originally Posted by RJB01camaross
440RWHP would sound right but not 361. That seems way low. Are there any other dynos in the area you could try?
There are few and far in between. His shop is the closest one that I know of.
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Originally Posted by 01SS99red
These numbers look low as well. But as long is it trap a good mph (118+) you should be ^ 400rwhp
Yeah, the day after that dyno, I ran the car at the track and ran the best of 12.2 @ 110 MPH. That was back in the states. Here well there is only one 1/4 mile track I know in the country and there are alot of road courses track.
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It says that it was dyno'd in 4th gear, I thought 3rd gear was the standard bc it was the closest to the 1:1 ratio. I think that could be the reason for the low readings.

Edit: I stand corrected, I was thinking Autos...carry on

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goto your local track and run a 1/4 mile and see where your at! dont stress about the dyno too much!
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Originally Posted by mattinokc
goto your local track and run a 1/4 mile and see where your at! dont stress about the dyno too much!
Yeah, I'm a little stress abit but not a whole lot, not enough I'll lose sleep over it.
As soon as the track opens I'll run the car to see where I am at however she's not set up for straight track anymore.

I just wanted to share how fugged up my dyno numbers were.
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Originally Posted by bene
The AFR is at 13+ on part throttle til 2.5K RPM then it goes to 12.5 to 11.7 @ 4K rpm and then goes up to 12 @ 4.5K RPM and down gradually to 11.7 again.
Found your problem.
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Originally Posted by RJB01camaross
440RWHP would sound right but not 361. That seems way low. Are there any other dynos in the area you could try?
I may be missing something, but how can you get 440RWHP out of a small cam and Z06 heads?
Z06s obviously have the 243 heads and a cam of similar size, and usually dyno around 355rwhp stock and 380rwhp with headers
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Originally Posted by BOTTLE ROCKET
I may be missing something, but how can you get 440RWHP out of a small cam and Z06 heads?
Z06s obviously have the 243 heads and a cam of similar size, and usually dyno around 355rwhp stock and 380rwhp with headers
Because you also cannot compare a stock grind cam to a aftermarket cam even with the exact same set of stock 243 heads.

I have seen many 224/224 cam cars with 243 heads,, LT's, LS6 intake, stock 3.42 gears & 6-speed lay down 430+RWHP over the years.

These newer EPS cams have been laying down awsome numbers & E.T.'s
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Originally Posted by black00ssFL
Found your problem.
Yeah, I'm thinking that too. But btw this guy tune his customer's cars as they have all supercharged so he fattens up the fuel up top. I even suggested to add some more timing up mid to top but nothing really changed drastically on the numbers.

As soon as I get my HPTuners started working again with my new laptop, I'll load up the the tune to have the LS1tech's best tuners can dissect my dyno tune.

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if you paid for it, they shouldn't have to...your tuner should be able to lean it out to 12.5-12.8 across the board to be plenty safe but make better power

not saying it's your only problem but it's an obvious issue
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
if you paid for it, they shouldn't have to...your tuner should be able to lean it out to 12.5-12.8 across the board to be plenty safe but make better power

not saying it's your only problem but it's an obvious issue
Trust me, I encouraged him to lean the mid and top end along with adding the timing but he insisted to have the AFR to stay that way to be "safe" (liability) and he advanced the spark 2 pts and there weren't any change. I didn't understand his excuse but I wasn't going to force him for something he strongly disagree. I'm not a tuner he is and more importantly so I don't like to tell people how to do their job especially if they're taking it on the safe side.


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