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Old 10-11-2010, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SS MPSTR
Cops in your area are checking cams specs now? The only way they would know anything is if you're loud and/or not running cats with a raw fuel smell coming out of the car. If you're driving around sans cats, it really doesn't matter what cam you're running if you're looking to avoid detection.
I assume you are not from Kalifornia, land of the smog *****. The cam was VERY choppy. This gives the officers "probable cause" to pop the hood. This can create issues if you just happen to have long tubes, no cats, nitrous, etc. So yes, it is important to keep under the radar here. Most cops only take into consideration the sound coming from the car, not the smell...
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Originally Posted by NoGamesLS1
What cam do you have? There aren't many of us around. I've only seen 1 or 2 others on the board with this setup. What's your setup consist of?
Combo is 4yrs old (recently upgraded to ARH 1 7/8 and SD tune)
picked up ~15rwhp/15tq from above

Cam Motion spec'd to Livernois Stage III 243's
low 230's duration with a lil less lift than you
(wondering if a newer designed lobe would help)
EWP, FAST90/NW90 ARH 1 7/8", 3" catted Y, magnaflow cb

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Originally Posted by NoGamesLS1
I assume you are not from Kalifornia, land of the smog *****. The cam was VERY choppy. This gives the officers "probable cause" to pop the hood. This can create issues if you just happen to have long tubes, no cats, nitrous, etc. So yes, it is important to keep under the radar here. Most cops only take into consideration the sound coming from the car, not the smell...
actually he lives in southern california
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Originally Posted by NoGamesLS1
I assume you are not from Kalifornia, land of the smog *****. The cam was VERY choppy. This gives the officers "probable cause" to pop the hood. This can create issues if you just happen to have long tubes, no cats, nitrous, etc. So yes, it is important to keep under the radar here. Most cops only take into consideration the sound coming from the car, not the smell...

Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS
actually he lives in southern california
I'm well aware of the smog-naziness, thanks. I have a cammed 427CI ZO6 (113/109), cammed 385CI LT1 (108/104) and a cammed 496CI BBC (110/106), so I know a little bit about choppy cams . I do run cats on the Zedo, but as I alluded to in my first post, no cats (aside from being louder than hell) is the surest way to get a referee ticket. Most cops wouldn't know the chop of a cam, or what it signified. You could have a stock cam, LT's, !cats and a LM exhaust and still get the same ref ticket...and when they are following you, you better believe it's the smell.
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Impressive numbers
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Originally Posted by SS MPSTR
I do run cats on the Zedo, but as I alluded to in my first post, no cats (aside from being louder than hell) is the surest way to get a referee ticket. Most cops wouldn't know the chop of a cam, or what it signified. You could have a stock cam, LT's, !cats and a LM exhaust and still get the same ref ticket...and when they are following you, you better believe it's the smell.
If your more worried about being noticed for the smell coming from your tailpipe than you are from the sound of your big cam then it sounds like you have some fueling issues.

This new cam is quieter at idle and wot and made more power. Different strokes for different folks.
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Originally Posted by NoGamesLS1
If your more worried about being noticed for the smell coming from your tailpipe than you are from the sound of your big cam then it sounds like you have some fueling issues.
No. I'm not worried about either I'm not sure that you realize that a perfectly tuned stock car will still stink without cats! You can smell the difference from a couple hundred feet back, and it's usually obvious who the culprit is...the kid in the f-body, or the blue-haired old lady in the Buick?
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Originally Posted by SS MPSTR
No. I'm not worried about either I'm not sure that you realize that a perfectly tuned stock car will still stink without cats! You can smell the difference from a couple hundred feet back, and it's usually obvious who the culprit is...the kid in the f-body, or the blue-haired old lady in the Buick?
If you have e85 down there you may want to check it out. The exhaust looses its "stings the eyes" characteristics lol.
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Originally Posted by NoGamesLS1
If you have e85 down there you may want to check it out. The exhaust looses its "stings the eyes" characteristics lol.

I'd be really curious to see what it actually puts out on an emission test with E85. Now that would be an awesome write-up.
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That is really impressive. What spring are you running
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Nice numbers steve. This car runs real hard with this combo. The off the line torque is amazing. Doesnt pull quite as hard up top as before but very impressive.
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All I can say is WOW! I would have been happy seeing 490's out of that combo. Congrats on your sleeper build. I had almost forgotten about this cam until I saw this post. I remember you wanting to go for the high lift of LSK's... I guess we got the valve events right on that one . It was great working with you over the phone on this build. Let me know if you need anything else!

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My turbo car has only a 222/224 cam and the cops smelt me from behind once. I'm running no cats with plenty of fuel.
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Originally Posted by RsSean
That is really impressive. What spring are you running
They are the ones that cam on the heads. I believe they are PRC Dual Gold .650
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Originally Posted by XtraCajunSS
All I can say is WOW! I would have been happy seeing 490's out of that combo. Congrats on your sleeper build. I had almost forgotten about this cam until I saw this post. I remember you wanting to go for the high lift of LSK's... I guess we got the valve events right on that one . It was great working with you over the phone on this build. Let me know if you need anything else!

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Very good Shane! Thanks for spending the time to get it right! I would imagine I am seeing a boost in numbers due to the e85, but I don't know how much. Also I am running out of injector (greentops). I need to get some 60's on here and see what it will do with some more fuel. I am running about .85 lambda up top; very close to max power lean for e85. Hope to see what it will due running .75-.77 up high. Idle is very mild. I will try to get a video up tomorrow.

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Awesome! I'd love to hear the idle clip...
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video added
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Nice solid numbers across the the entire power band.
Who did the tuning and how do you like the e85?
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Originally Posted by SlickVert
Nice solid numbers across the the entire power band.
Who did the tuning and how do you like the e85?
I tuned it myself. I like e85. I am getting about 1-1.5 mpg less with e85 than I did with the 91. Whole power-band feels smoother and it seems to idle quieter. You will need a lot of injector.
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Originally Posted by SS MPSTR
Cops in your area are checking cams specs now? The only way they would know anything is if you're loud and/or not running cats with a raw fuel smell coming out of the car. If you're driving around sans cats, it really doesn't matter what cam you're running if you're looking to avoid detection.
Seriously ?



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