The 5.0's are catching up....
LS3 still came out 2-3 years before the 5.0 in the Corvette. 2-3 years of aftermarket support compared to less than one is a pretty big advantage. It's also an updated version of the LS2, which came out in ~05, so the aftermarket has had a lot more time with it.
These things are very impressive.
FWIW, even though the torque numbers are a little "low", just remember that these things can carry more gear to help with that. A 7500 rpm power peak with a 4.56 gear will be a able to go faster in each gear than a 4.10 gear with a 6500 rpm power peak....
FWIW, even though the torque numbers are a little "low", just remember that these things can carry more gear to help with that. A 7500 rpm power peak with a 4.56 gear will be a able to go faster in each gear than a 4.10 gear with a 6500 rpm power peak....
Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
These things are very impressive.
FWIW, even though the torque numbers are a little "low", just remember that these things can carry more gear to help with that. A 7500 rpm power peak with a 4.56 gear will be a able to go faster in each gear than a 4.10 gear with a 6500 rpm power peak....
FWIW, even though the torque numbers are a little "low", just remember that these things can carry more gear to help with that. A 7500 rpm power peak with a 4.56 gear will be a able to go faster in each gear than a 4.10 gear with a 6500 rpm power peak....
Technically yes but hard to say that when you could go bolt ls1 heads and intake onto a ls3. the ls3 ls4 ls7 ls2 whatever are all based off of the ls1 architecture even if gm decided to call it gen 4. Just an evolution of the ls1 family with better heads and a larger bore... The only thing that keeps us from bolting on ls7, ls3 heads from our ls1 is a smaller bore. Hardly revolutionary stuff from gm. Just what happens when you improve something over time.
Thats right you can run more gear but FWIW when you start getting into a 4.56 rear gears your going to be affecting the streetability of a car rather quickly.
Thats right you can run more gear but FWIW when you start getting into a 4.56 rear gears your going to be affecting the streetability of a car rather quickly.
5.0 is an evolution of the 4.6, little more poke and stroke, more cam, more headflow. The 5.0 is EXACTLY that, an evolution. Just because chevy guys haven't paid attention to that evolution doesn't mean its still not similar architecture. You can't easily run a huge gear on the new 5.0s, the transmission ratios are REALLY aggressive even in the automatic. It's part of the reason they're so fast!
The 5.0 though benefits from the vvt timing compared to the older 4.6 engine. Other then that yea nothing too special.. better heads more displacment, evolution...
Last edited by got-a-ls1; Mar 14, 2011 at 11:10 AM.
For me, I'll go larger cubes to start with - and if I have to, I'll boost it too.
I think what Ford has done with the new 5.0 is great btw. Competition is a good thing - and they're bringing it.
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Verdad Gallardo I never said the 5.0 wasnt an evolution so i dont know what your directing that at me? or if your just making a point i dunno.. lol. BTW when i said hardly revolutionary stuff from GM i was referring to the changes from gen 3 to gen 4... not the motors themselves... Maybe thats what you were referring to. i want a ls7 so bad lol... As of right now the LS7 IMO is the best engine going from any company for N/A power and price. There are not many N/A cars out there that will do what the ls7 will do with such little work.
The 5.0 though benefits from the vvt timing compared to the older 4.6 engine. Other then that yea nothing too special.. better heads more displacment, evolution...
The 5.0 though benefits from the vvt timing compared to the older 4.6 engine. Other then that yea nothing too special.. better heads more displacment, evolution...
On The Tree
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Wow. I have to give credit to ford. Now i know why GM needed bailout money. I totally disagree about it being about car enthusiast. You don't go on a ferrari board and post about your car. I may not have been a member of this board long but I have been a member of 300zx club for awhile and I can tell you that people are alot more dedicated to the vehicles they have and why people come to a site.
Each is own. You wanna talk about stock bottom end?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8s26_bsHGo
Nice 3.0L. Hp & TQ.
Each is own. You wanna talk about stock bottom end?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8s26_bsHGo
Nice 3.0L. Hp & TQ.
stock longblock 4.6 03 cobra motor. how do you like them apples
the new 5.0's are beasts. i have two friends that have them, and i drove one with just intake/tune. surprised the hell outta me, thats for sure. i definitely wouldnt consider trading my cobra, or any of my other cars in on one though. ill stick to my pushrods
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I bet it would make power to 8K, but it was not our car to be spinning it that high!
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The 5.0 is a new ground up design.
It shares nothing with the 4.6/5.4 mod motors except that it is DOHC.
It shares nothing with the 4.6/5.4 mod motors except that it is DOHC.
Staging Lane
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Good job Ford....starting to make some power. That doesn't mean i'm gonnal lose any sleep over running into one on the street or at the local track. Some people take this stuff too seriously...LOL
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bah, my 41year old engine makes more power! that must mean the 5.0's are crap!!!!
NOT. you gotta give em props 508rwhp and only stage 1 cams and stage 1 heads!?!?! and stock boss intake at that wow. I wanna see what the Boss engine will do, those are supposedly stable from the factory to at least 8400rpm!!
as far as complaining about the tq, it still puts out more than a lot of cammed LS1's ive seen and more than stock LS3's so its not like its a nutless wonder!!! plus you can just gear it up. even 4.56 gears would only have you revving at 2400rpm @ 65mph and still allow them to trap over 130mph in the 1/4 and provide excellent tq mutiplication as well as the excellent tranny gearing.
NOT. you gotta give em props 508rwhp and only stage 1 cams and stage 1 heads!?!?! and stock boss intake at that wow. I wanna see what the Boss engine will do, those are supposedly stable from the factory to at least 8400rpm!!
as far as complaining about the tq, it still puts out more than a lot of cammed LS1's ive seen and more than stock LS3's so its not like its a nutless wonder!!! plus you can just gear it up. even 4.56 gears would only have you revving at 2400rpm @ 65mph and still allow them to trap over 130mph in the 1/4 and provide excellent tq mutiplication as well as the excellent tranny gearing.
