Sloppy Yank converter? 390 hp A4/can only
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My SS3800 was loosing 40 rwhp with my old setup. I'm waiting to see how it does with my new setup. I'm also going to take it to the track to get some numbers. If it doesn't perform it's going back to get inspected.
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damn thats a lot of loss...
lots of people seem to be popping up quoting that large of a loss unlocked/locked...
if i had a converter that i knew was causing that much loss i would take it out...
lots of people seem to be popping up quoting that large of a loss unlocked/locked...
if i had a converter that i knew was causing that much loss i would take it out...
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What verter you have in the car GrannySShifting ?
I have never had a problem with the 3 Yank converters [SY3500,4000 and PT4400]that I have used.
Could you give us some info on the type of converters that"fell apart",please? Were they SS,SY,PTs ? TIA.
I have never had a problem with the 3 Yank converters [SY3500,4000 and PT4400]that I have used.
Could you give us some info on the type of converters that"fell apart",please? Were they SS,SY,PTs ? TIA.
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My Yank PT4000 tore apart as well. The top bearing in the converter failed and the lockup clutch separated from it’s bonding. The most disturbing problem with the Yank converter was that I ordered a PT4000 and it was very loose. The converter efficiency was below 80% in 3rd gear at 5500 rpm at WOT. Efficiency did not get much better than that at RPM above 6000. As it turns out the PT4000 was really a 4800-5200 stall converter. This was determined when I sent it in for repair.
What Yank converter are you running?
John
What Yank converter are you running?
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Its the same thing. Must be another one bit the dust. Weve had a variety yank converters come apart, but seems liek some live well in some peoples cars.
a 3500 has once I think, and no fewer than 4 4000 stalls have come apart. I think they were all the PT4000.
Ive seen guys rock on the 4400 and stuff, but it seems liek some have problems with them soem dont. Seems consistant with te 400 stall though. JNorris and this guy have the exact converter, that flashes to the exact spot, and loses tons of effeciecy
a 3500 has once I think, and no fewer than 4 4000 stalls have come apart. I think they were all the PT4000.
Ive seen guys rock on the 4400 and stuff, but it seems liek some have problems with them soem dont. Seems consistant with te 400 stall though. JNorris and this guy have the exact converter, that flashes to the exact spot, and loses tons of effeciecy
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Thanks for posting Mike.
I'm sick of these Yank guys always saying how efficent there are compared to PI,Midwest,TCI.
35RW loss isnt exactly great...
No doubt Yanks TP series is one bad **** but the other guys are right there too.
I might even try a TCI 4400 after seeing how well they work for TX SPEED.
I'm sick of these Yank guys always saying how efficent there are compared to PI,Midwest,TCI.
35RW loss isnt exactly great...
No doubt Yanks TP series is one bad **** but the other guys are right there too.
I might even try a TCI 4400 after seeing how well they work for TX SPEED.
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Mine made a 10 HP diff locked to unlocked back when I was stock internal.Then made a 10 to 12 HP diff with my first H/C combo.Hey JS,hope you got a barf bag.
When I spoke to Paul at Thunder Race he told me that was what to expect with a Yank.
When I spoke to Paul at Thunder Race he told me that was what to expect with a Yank.
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Well this is really strange,I've seen as many good numbers locked vs unlocked on Yanks as bad numbers?
Guess some of us werent as lucky?
So JFM u made 430 unlocked with full exhaust and threw a 10 bolt?
Well that should drop at least 10RW once u add the 12-bolt but according to your unlocked numbers you'll get it back since the Yank is so good,that should put u at 430RW locked threw a 12 bolt.
U drop the PS belt and it'll pick up another 3 or 4 RW...
JFM I'd say u have a good shot at 440RW threw exhaust...
Pretty impressive,good luck....
Guess some of us werent as lucky?
So JFM u made 430 unlocked with full exhaust and threw a 10 bolt?
Well that should drop at least 10RW once u add the 12-bolt but according to your unlocked numbers you'll get it back since the Yank is so good,that should put u at 430RW locked threw a 12 bolt.
U drop the PS belt and it'll pick up another 3 or 4 RW...
JFM I'd say u have a good shot at 440RW threw exhaust...
Pretty impressive,good luck....
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I dont know. Your numbers/problems/ seem very similair to JNorris. All you need if for the lockup to come apart, and itll trash your new tranny. if it hasnt hurt it already. if it were my car it wouldnt be driven till that converter was cut open, and the trasn flushed completely
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When my stock trans gave up and I had my"built"trans installed I sent my old faithful PT4400 back to Yank and installed a brand new one as a precaution.The "built"trans was a POS so I had my stocker rebuilt and reinstalled the new PT4400.Turns out my stocker was not in that bad of shape[fluid not burned,no junk floating in the trans] and I could have put the old PT back in the rebuilt trans.
When my headers get back from recoating at Swain I can finally put fluid in the trans and drive it.I sure hope I dont have similar problems as my car has been down since November.When I add the 90mm FAST intake and TB it will get a new tune and dyno,if it will lock up I will post up the results for sure.
Slo01z28,I would follow Grannys suggestions because you dont want a bad verter to take the whole trans out.Better to be safe than sorry,that is why I changed my old verter for a new one that I now have to hope is OK.
JS,I agree with your last post.The only wild card now is the new PT4400 vs my old PT 4400.I will be getting retune at ESP as soon as I make sure,1-Trans works 2-[new headache]PT4400 works 3-[only if 1 and 2 are OK] I finally send it down the 1/4 mile,which is all that counts to me.4- add 90mm FAST and TB
When my headers get back from recoating at Swain I can finally put fluid in the trans and drive it.I sure hope I dont have similar problems as my car has been down since November.When I add the 90mm FAST intake and TB it will get a new tune and dyno,if it will lock up I will post up the results for sure.
Slo01z28,I would follow Grannys suggestions because you dont want a bad verter to take the whole trans out.Better to be safe than sorry,that is why I changed my old verter for a new one that I now have to hope is OK.
JS,I agree with your last post.The only wild card now is the new PT4400 vs my old PT 4400.I will be getting retune at ESP as soon as I make sure,1-Trans works 2-[new headache]PT4400 works 3-[only if 1 and 2 are OK] I finally send it down the 1/4 mile,which is all that counts to me.4- add 90mm FAST and TB
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I dont know. Your numbers/problems/ seem very similair to JNorris. All you need if for the lockup to come apart, and itll trash your new tranny. if it hasnt hurt it already. if it were my car it wouldnt be driven till that converter was cut open, and the trasn flushed completely
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Yeah that is what happened to my Yank 3000TT. The tranny tore apart and a piece of metal got stuck up in the clutch so it would not close correctly. I sent it to Yank, Mike pulled it apart and fixed it. He only charged me shipping!