G6x3,AFR,stock 346
02-21-2012, 09:29 AM
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Either way, nice numbers! Let us know when you get to the track. Any susp. work? 11.2@122 is moving for 390rwhp, you definetly have that thing dialed in!
02-21-2012, 09:47 AM
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11.22 was on a old car from 10yrs ago. When. G5x2 came out
It didn't have much suspension work
The car just had built
K member A arms. Afco Drag bar
M9 tq arm
02-21-2012, 03:32 PM
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setup has more left in it with more compression. I would like to see at least 11.5.1 and good gas. so it will give you room if you want to use the heads on a bigger cube build.
02-22-2012, 05:13 PM
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02-22-2012, 07:47 PM
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New Gm slave /Tick performance master
275/60 hosier dr
Not doing bad for 30lbs in tires ... Just checked them
Thanks for compliments guys
275/60 hosier dr
Not doing bad for 30lbs in tires ... Just checked them
Thanks for compliments guys
02-23-2012, 01:47 PM
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Low static compression and a big cam really dont play well together.....the fact you made the power you did is actually impressive.
Your cylinder pressure and DCR is suuuuper low with this set-up. You could have easily ran 11.5 with pump gas and not experienced any knock whatsoever with even a so-so tune (wouldn't have to be deadly spot on). Both torque and HP would have been up considrably.....compression really helps larger cammed combo's because the overlap and late valve events kill the cylinder pressure and the name of the game is to try and build as much cylinder pressure as possible.....thats whats creating all the twisting force in the first place.
A 102 TB is worth another 5 ponies on this combo btw.....not the end of the world but it all adds up. More compression (especially with a tight quench) and a larger TB would have put the torque over 430 and close to 500 to the ground on power.
Car sounds great btw....love the exhaust note!
More in it if your up for going in and wrenching again!
Enjoy the new combo
-Tony
PS....Would like to see the dyno curve.....any way to post that up?
02-23-2012, 01:50 PM
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Low static compression and a big cam really dont play well together.....the fact you made the power you did is actually impressive.
Your cylinder pressure and DCR is suuuuper low with this set-up. You could have easily ran 11.5 with pump gas and not experienced any knock whatsoever with even a so-so tune (wouldn't have to be deadly spot on). Both torque and HP would have been up considrably.....compression really helps larger cammed combo's because the overlap and late valve events kill the cylinder pressure and the name of the game is to try and build as much cylinder pressure as possible.....thats whats creating all the twisting force in the first place.
A 102 TB is worth another 5 ponies on this combo btw.....not the end of the world but it all adds up. More compression (especially with a tight quench) and a larger TB would have put the torque over 430 and close to 500 to the ground on power.
Car sounds great btw....love the exhaust note!
More in it if your up for going in and wrenching again!
Enjoy the new combo
-Tony
PS....Would like to see the dyno curve.....any way to post that up?
Low static compression and a big cam really dont play well together.....the fact you made the power you did is actually impressive.
Your cylinder pressure and DCR is suuuuper low with this set-up. You could have easily ran 11.5 with pump gas and not experienced any knock whatsoever with even a so-so tune (wouldn't have to be deadly spot on). Both torque and HP would have been up considrably.....compression really helps larger cammed combo's because the overlap and late valve events kill the cylinder pressure and the name of the game is to try and build as much cylinder pressure as possible.....thats whats creating all the twisting force in the first place.
A 102 TB is worth another 5 ponies on this combo btw.....not the end of the world but it all adds up. More compression (especially with a tight quench) and a larger TB would have put the torque over 430 and close to 500 to the ground on power.
Car sounds great btw....love the exhaust note!
More in it if your up for going in and wrenching again!
Enjoy the new combo
-Tony
PS....Would like to see the dyno curve.....any way to post that up?
Thanks for info
I may get heads milled and 102tb
Mike Norris has the graph
I'll check with him
02-23-2012, 02:04 PM
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Anyway....if you take the car apart to mill the heads consider sending the 102 off to me to get ported....I would suspect we could clear the 500 mark with the intake, compression, and TB change. the entire curve would be fatter and it would come up on the cam much faster with a a little more cylinder pressure from the higher CR figures.
-Tony
02-23-2012, 02:47 PM
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Wow....didn't realize this was on Norris's dyno (the Humbler.....LOL). Its actually quite stingy.....his STD numbers are lower than most dyno's SAE figures. In fact Im pretty sure he runs most of his cars on that correction factor now because its closer to a typical Dynojet number.
Anyway....if you take the car apart to mill the heads consider sending the 102 off to me to get ported....I would suspect we could clear the 500 mark with the intake, compression, and TB change. the entire curve would be fatter and it would come up on the cam much faster with a a little more cylinder pressure from the higher CR figures.
-Tony
Anyway....if you take the car apart to mill the heads consider sending the 102 off to me to get ported....I would suspect we could clear the 500 mark with the intake, compression, and TB change. the entire curve would be fatter and it would come up on the cam much faster with a a little more cylinder pressure from the higher CR figures.
-Tony
U will getting my intake to port
Thanks again
02-23-2012, 06:12 PM
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It's fly cut
I should ask more on heads
I dOnt know that much bout that stuff
I just want hp and will drive the shot out of it
I called Louis G told him send me some heads for a 2002 that's bout as far as it went
The cam was for my 2011... Then I bought a 2002 and kept the 11 bolt ons and just used the cam for that car,,, then just ordered heads and intake for the 2002
I'm sure we'll get it tweaked a bit more
02-23-2012, 10:49 PM
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I didn't want Jason to spend money on heads twice. Yep, the compression is low, but they will fit golden on his 427 or 415 like his last car. The 346 won't last long, so I didn't feel right selling him heads twice. It'll either give up the ghost, or Jason will upgrade. Either way, he is going to wring it out!
Tony, this is the car we spoke about regarding 225s and small bore, and what gasket to use.
2 more points of compression will help a ton. Just put a 4" crank in it!
Tony, this is the car we spoke about regarding 225s and small bore, and what gasket to use.
2 more points of compression will help a ton. Just put a 4" crank in it!
02-24-2012, 07:17 AM
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I didn't want Jason to spend money on heads twice. Yep, the compression is low, but they will fit golden on his 427 or 415 like his last car. The 346 won't last long, so I didn't feel right selling him heads twice. It'll either give up the ghost, or Jason will upgrade. Either way, he is going to wring it out!
Tony, this is the car we spoke about regarding 225s and small bore, and what gasket to use.
2 more points of compression will help a ton. Just put a 4" crank in it!
Tony, this is the car we spoke about regarding 225s and small bore, and what gasket to use.
2 more points of compression will help a ton. Just put a 4" crank in it!
I do remember u saying you where going to get me heads that would go toward my next build
Thanks for take n care of me
02-24-2012, 12:57 PM
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.040 gasket will bump you ~.4 alone...
Also your tuner is right if you are running a 98-104mm FTP lid the 102 TB will not help much at all...The restriction in the intake track is the lid...It flows similiar to around a 85mm bellmouth opening...and yes there is no difffernce between the 104mm and the 98mm (they both neck down the same)...that is why i made a custom 4" bellmouth lid
...I picked up 6rwhp from just a lid swap and that was with a 92mm tb for both runs.