Advanced Induction HCR 241's Dyno Results
08-14-2013, 10:37 PM
#41
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08-15-2013, 07:25 AM
#42
#'s in my sig. I have their 226/234 .600" cam. Here's a link that shows what a similar EPS cam can do. I don't have a FAST 102 setup but that wouldn't account for a 60hp difference.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...inc-tuned.html
I'm not going to get in a debate on here. You guys can throw your money away on an AI cam if you like. I'm never going to give them another dime and figured I would save you guys some headaches. And I never got mad at a dyno. I got mad at Phil when he started insulting me, refused to give me direct answers to any of the questions I asked, and then promised to give me a refund for my cam when I sent it back and then changed his mind. That's all I'm saying.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...inc-tuned.html
I'm not going to get in a debate on here. You guys can throw your money away on an AI cam if you like. I'm never going to give them another dime and figured I would save you guys some headaches. And I never got mad at a dyno. I got mad at Phil when he started insulting me, refused to give me direct answers to any of the questions I asked, and then promised to give me a refund for my cam when I sent it back and then changed his mind. That's all I'm saying.
08-15-2013, 11:46 AM
#43
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#'s in my sig. I have their 226/234 .600" cam. Here's a link that shows what a similar EPS cam can do. I don't have a FAST 102 setup but that wouldn't account for a 60hp difference.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...inc-tuned.html
The difference is 43 HP, not 60 HP. Your math is off by 17. The torque difference between of the two is 31.
His heads are 58 cc with light weight valves, which could/will amount to some difference in power in between you and him. I suppose your heads are not exactly the same CC or that you have the light valves (not in your sig.) which would account for some lost power by reving faster. But,
The cut out is 10-15 HP more or less depending on your headers and location of the cutout and in conjuction with the F.A.S.T, 100mm MAF could be more.
Underdrive pully could be 5-15 Hp. ( Ive seen a few people claim 15-20??). probably closer to 10HP and let the engine rev faster increasing torque pruduction also.
Ported F.A.S.T is a HUGE difference coming in at 15-20 especialy with a 100mm MAF. Much greater volume of air also increasing torque peak.
Thats 30 HP (out of the actual 43 not 60) difference on the low side of the modifications with out knowing the difference in combustion chamber or valve type of the head. That leaves 13 HP that I would say could be lost on the dyno. Did you have it dynoed at the same place? (not in sig.) Was the air the same? Well there is the elusive 13 HP.
So I'd say you need to think about what you are posting/saying. Consider all the relevant points that would lead to power increase or decrease. So far you have not, and could have a real beast on your hands.
I'm not going to get in a debate on here. You guys can throw your money away on an AI cam if you like. I'm never going to give them another dime and figured I would save you guys some headaches. And I never got mad at a dyno. I got mad at Phil when he started insulting me, refused to give me direct answers to any of the questions I asked, and then promised to give me a refund for my cam when I sent it back and then changed his mind. That's all I'm saying.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...inc-tuned.html
The difference is 43 HP, not 60 HP. Your math is off by 17. The torque difference between of the two is 31.
His heads are 58 cc with light weight valves, which could/will amount to some difference in power in between you and him. I suppose your heads are not exactly the same CC or that you have the light valves (not in your sig.) which would account for some lost power by reving faster. But,
The cut out is 10-15 HP more or less depending on your headers and location of the cutout and in conjuction with the F.A.S.T, 100mm MAF could be more.
Underdrive pully could be 5-15 Hp. ( Ive seen a few people claim 15-20??). probably closer to 10HP and let the engine rev faster increasing torque pruduction also.
Ported F.A.S.T is a HUGE difference coming in at 15-20 especialy with a 100mm MAF. Much greater volume of air also increasing torque peak.
Thats 30 HP (out of the actual 43 not 60) difference on the low side of the modifications with out knowing the difference in combustion chamber or valve type of the head. That leaves 13 HP that I would say could be lost on the dyno. Did you have it dynoed at the same place? (not in sig.) Was the air the same? Well there is the elusive 13 HP.
So I'd say you need to think about what you are posting/saying. Consider all the relevant points that would lead to power increase or decrease. So far you have not, and could have a real beast on your hands.
I'm not going to get in a debate on here. You guys can throw your money away on an AI cam if you like. I'm never going to give them another dime and figured I would save you guys some headaches. And I never got mad at a dyno. I got mad at Phil when he started insulting me, refused to give me direct answers to any of the questions I asked, and then promised to give me a refund for my cam when I sent it back and then changed his mind. That's all I'm saying.
but most have no problem using email as a means of communication. Sorry bout the highjack OP.
squirlnutz
Last edited by squirlNUTZ; 08-15-2013 at 11:48 AM. Reason: edit
08-15-2013, 01:20 PM
#44
Actually the difference is 53hp. Scroll to second page. I have the lightweight valves, similar CR since his flycuts add about 2cc and I have a thinner gasket, I have an underdrive pulley and I've never seen a cutout add 15hp-20hp.
08-15-2013, 03:01 PM
#46
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You ARE mad at dyno.
Take your car to Speedinc and see what it does. You are the only one complaining about Phill's camshaft. Every one else has a great performing package and I bet you do too, only you dont realize it.
your build thread states your car made 426/405 not whats in your sig?...https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1618078&page=4
And you tried to return your cam 6 months after you bought it?..
Last edited by squirlNUTZ; 08-16-2013 at 12:06 AM.
08-22-2013, 03:52 PM
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I don't know about there cams I was just saying the heads are impressive for 241s . But its all what you wanna spend and what type of power you wanna end up with.
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Never made it before selling the car last year. The current owner lives in KY and will have an 8.8 in it soon but probably won't happen until next spring. I'm sure I'll hear about it as I still keep up with some of the car scene in Lexington since moving to Nashville.
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