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Old 01-05-2013, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
Had float, but swapped out the springs, and haven't gone back to the dyno since, I'm shifting currently 63-6500 and running it out the back @7k.. It's a out the box super Vic, stock castings.. I do have the ability to advance the cam, if I desire, this was just a interesting experiment.. I may throw it back on to play with the tune a bit, I'm pretty sure the float is gone and power might have a lil carried better.. Only went to track once, and despite the shitty 60 It was dead nuts consistent.. And reliable.. Gotta screw my rims, and ditch the stock shocks.. I'm putting heads on over the winter so, I'll never get to push this combo as far as I can take it.. But it sure was fun...

It's a 8" coan.. Flashes to 5300 or so..
Shift that bitch at 7000rpm and have that converter loosened up to 5800 and let her eat!
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I'm gonna strap it back down soon. , as street tunin stuff sux , it blows tires off at anything below 100mph on the hit
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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
Had float, but swapped out the springs, and haven't gone back to the dyno since, I'm shifting currently 63-6500 and running it out the back @7k.. It's a out the box super Vic, stock castings.. I do have the ability to advance the cam, if I desire, this was just a interesting experiment.. I may throw it back on to play with the tune a bit, I'm pretty sure the float is gone and power might have a lil carried better.. Only went to track once, and despite the shitty 60 It was dead nuts consistent.. And reliable.. Gotta screw my rims, and ditch the stock shocks.. I'm putting heads on over the winter so, I'll never get to push this combo as far as I can take it.. But it sure was fun...

It's a 8" coan.. Flashes to 5300 or so..
So as I figured you ran the car after you made the changes to the valvetrain. This would better explain why the listed RWHP and weight don't quite match the performance (mainly the mph) especially considering it was its first outing and the issues you mentioned.

Makes sense to me now.

Now go run some single digits with the new combo!
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Yea still haven't optimized the tune either , fuel was safe on the log, added a deg upstairs at the track it answered with another mph.. I'm sure I have some more power left up top , and still might run this combo when the tracks open up in early march .. Depending on if we move my shop where I put my junk together or not.. Ill keep this thread updated, I've heard it would run like **** when I mentioned this lil odd combo that I was gonna try.. Needless to say , I'm pleased with how it turned out .. This top ends goin onto my lil brothers 346.. Should be interesting
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Keep giving it a degree of timing after peak torque until it levels off gaining mph, back it off a degree and if it doesn't slow down any call it good.
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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
Yea still haven't optimized the tune either , fuel was safe on the log, added a deg upstairs at the track it answered with another mph.. I'm sure I have some more power left up top , and still might run this combo when the tracks open up in early march .. Depending on if we move my shop where I put my junk together or not.. Ill keep this thread updated, I've heard it would run like **** when I mentioned this lil odd combo that I was gonna try.. Needless to say , I'm pleased with how it turned out .. This top ends goin onto my lil brothers 346.. Should be interesting
Interesting enough usually those most vocal about why it will not work either have never tried it themselves or better yet understand why it did in fact work.



Isn't it aggravating when your ready to move on with a particular combo and all you can think of is the what if's? been there done that too many times.
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Originally Posted by MoreHP
Interesting enough usually those most vocal about why it will not work either have never tried it themselves or better yet understand why it did in fact work.



Isn't it aggravating when your ready to move on with a particular combo and all you can think of is the what if's? been there done that too many times.
Yea the terrible part is living on Long Island with no place to go test locally , and frequently.. It's a excursion to hit the track.. And a small fortune in tolls.. Miss having Mir in my back yard ..

Well oddly enough the guy claiming it wouldn't work in all his ls1tech post count glory , hasn't said a word.. Whatever.. It's fun polishing a turd!
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Hey Illusional, I am just curious, because I am also street tuning my car myself with HPtuners, how much timing are you running in WOT at 5K and up? Feel free to PM me if you would like. I am currently working on the timing in my car. Thanks!
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I'm running 28 as of this moment.. You probably can run considerably more being you have low compression , but take it slow and log log log ..
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Thanks! Yeah I was thinking I could get at least a degree or two more with my low compression. I am only at 26* right now, but it is definitely not finished and I knew that. And I got really mad when I went to the track expecting to get alot of full WOT runs logged and get some really good WOT timing tuning done, but my laptop decided to die that day. So it is back to street tuning for right now until I hit the track again.

Thanks again.
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This build is badass

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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
I'm gonna strap it back down soon. , as street tunin stuff sux , it blows tires off at anything below 100mph on the hit
LMFAO thats an understatement
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Originally Posted by 1BAD98LS1
LMFAO thats an understatement
Well yea, you actually experienced it.. U know!
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Finally got around to strapping it back down see if in fact the float was gone with only change being the addition of PAC 1521's over the patriot extremes I had in there previously.. Float went away, and was rewarded with a additional 17whp.. Upto 477.. I'll take it.. These 317's are beast... Fwiw I'm only runnin 26.5* of timing still.. Was squeezing in on a buddies dyno time for my touch up.. Didn't really dig in... Here's the video



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477WHP with stock heads is f'n awesome, very nice! I wouldn't mind seeing numbers like that myself
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The internet says this result is impossible but your winshield banner says otherwise.
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Originally Posted by My90Iroc
The internet says this result is impossible but your winshield banner says otherwise.
I'm the only one posting in my thread.. Shoulda put tsp in the title..
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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
I'm the only one posting in my thread.. Shoulda put tsp in the title..
True
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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
I'm the only one posting in my thread.. Shoulda put tsp in the title..
Some are watching.
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Congrats Steve!

This car is a beast guys. This is no dyno queen. Its holdng it down on streets and is driven everywhere to race or just cruise.


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