2010 Camaro/L99/DOD&VVT delete/Cam-only/Street Heat Stage 1/idle clip added
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2010 Camaro/L99/DOD&VVT delete/Cam-only/Street Heat Stage 1/idle clip added
This 2010 Camaro belongs to a WVU student from Morgantown, WV. He and his cousins drove 5 hours one way to bring his 2010 5th gen automatic camaro to have our "Street Heat" Stage 1 camshaft installed. He also had his VVT and DOD/AFM deleted while he was here and a 3 bolt cam sprocket and cam core installed. This was our first ever "Street Heat" Stage 1 install and dyno session so we were excited to see the results. I'll tell you one thing we were NOT expecting these results through the power robbing 6L80E!!!
The customers modification list includes:
-American Racing 1x7/8" headers
-Corsa 3" exhaust
-Stock L99 heads
-Stock L99 intake
-Vararam cold air intake
-Stock throttle body
-Tick Performance "Street Heat" Stage 1 for LS3(L76/L99/L92 intake lobe option for solid stem intake valve) 226/236 .605"/.578" 114+4
The solid stem intake valve option is for L92/L99/L76 heads that have the solid stem intake valve as it weighs much more than the LS3 intake valve. With the LS3 hollow stem intake valve you can get more aggressive with the intensity of the lobe without worry of valve float. With the mass and weight of the solid stem valve, I like to take some intensity off of the intake to ensure no stability problems ensue.
Unfortunately we didn't get any baseline numbers from before we installed the cam which I wish we would have, but it slipped our mind as we're very busy at the shop right now.
I've overlaid the first run that Jonathan basically guessed at the tune and the final run which it will leave the shop with.
The cam made much more power than we thought it would! With a 6 speed I don't see why it wouldn't easily make 450rwhp with a fairly small and mild cam. Remember this is our smallest cam for the LS3 so any of our larger cams would only gain more power.
Enjoy guys!
The customers modification list includes:
-American Racing 1x7/8" headers
-Corsa 3" exhaust
-Stock L99 heads
-Stock L99 intake
-Vararam cold air intake
-Stock throttle body
-Tick Performance "Street Heat" Stage 1 for LS3(L76/L99/L92 intake lobe option for solid stem intake valve) 226/236 .605"/.578" 114+4
The solid stem intake valve option is for L92/L99/L76 heads that have the solid stem intake valve as it weighs much more than the LS3 intake valve. With the LS3 hollow stem intake valve you can get more aggressive with the intensity of the lobe without worry of valve float. With the mass and weight of the solid stem valve, I like to take some intensity off of the intake to ensure no stability problems ensue.
Unfortunately we didn't get any baseline numbers from before we installed the cam which I wish we would have, but it slipped our mind as we're very busy at the shop right now.
I've overlaid the first run that Jonathan basically guessed at the tune and the final run which it will leave the shop with.
The cam made much more power than we thought it would! With a 6 speed I don't see why it wouldn't easily make 450rwhp with a fairly small and mild cam. Remember this is our smallest cam for the LS3 so any of our larger cams would only gain more power.
Enjoy guys!
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great numbers martin im in the market for an ls3 car, i have a 2002 ta and know if i go with a cam thats fairly large in size ill get cam surge, the new SS's have some fast pcms to keep up with timing an a/f. i want to keep my ta and get a 10-11 SS and do a cam and full exhaust, im glad to see with a mild cam its making those number. max porter 243s and a 230/230 113-112 lsa ed curtis cam im looking at will barley reach those numbers lol on my ls1. nice work
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great numbers martin im in the market for an ls3 car, i have a 2002 ta and know if i go with a cam thats fairly large in size ill get cam surge, the new SS's have some fast pcms to keep up with timing an a/f. i want to keep my ta and get a 10-11 SS and do a cam and full exhaust, im glad to see with a mild cam its making those number. max porter 243s and a 230/230 113-112 lsa ed curtis cam im looking at will barley reach those numbers lol on my ls1. nice work
I think even our Stage 2 Street Heat cam for the rectangle port heads would still make a nice driver, but it would have some surge at under 1500-1600rpm during cruising and in the parking lot in 1st or 2nd gear.
This cam drove beautifully and nearly identical to stock just with a much broader power curve.
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Great job Tick Performance! 437/407 through an auto, with exhaust, and cold-air intake...I'm loving the long, broad torque curve.
Martin - I'll be very curious to see what power and torque numbers your Stage 1 Street Heat (226/230, for cathedral ports) makes! Please post when someone bites the bullet on this
Trent
Martin - I'll be very curious to see what power and torque numbers your Stage 1 Street Heat (226/230, for cathedral ports) makes! Please post when someone bites the bullet on this
Trent
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Aziz can you post or send me the idle clip you posted on our Facebook page?
Trent,
We were also highly impressed with how much power such a small cam for a 376 produced. It goes to show that with the 262cc intake runners and 2.16" intake valves these heads have from the factory that a large amount of intake duration or a later closing event isn't needed to make good power above 6000rpm.
I think the amount of average torque this particular combination made was very impressive as it is above 350rwtq from 3000rpm all the way to nearly 6500 rpm and 380rwtq from 4000 to 6000rpm. It definitely gets this 4000+ pound Camaro moving from a stop very quickly and with a 3200-3600 stall this thing will be a handful on street tires no doubt about it.
Great job Tick Performance! 437/407 through an auto, with exhaust, and cold-air intake...I'm loving the long, broad torque curve.
Martin - I'll be very curious to see what power and torque numbers your Stage 1 Street Heat (226/230, for cathedral ports) makes! Please post when someone bites the bullet on this
Trent
Martin - I'll be very curious to see what power and torque numbers your Stage 1 Street Heat (226/230, for cathedral ports) makes! Please post when someone bites the bullet on this
Trent
We were also highly impressed with how much power such a small cam for a 376 produced. It goes to show that with the 262cc intake runners and 2.16" intake valves these heads have from the factory that a large amount of intake duration or a later closing event isn't needed to make good power above 6000rpm.
I think the amount of average torque this particular combination made was very impressive as it is above 350rwtq from 3000rpm all the way to nearly 6500 rpm and 380rwtq from 4000 to 6000rpm. It definitely gets this 4000+ pound Camaro moving from a stop very quickly and with a 3200-3600 stall this thing will be a handful on street tires no doubt about it.
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Great gains. I remember seeing your car there. Looks like the stage 1 is a great cam as well. I really think the secret to these street heat cams are the Intakes. I have the stage 2 on my ls2 and i made 420whp. The ls3 intake is obviously better than the ls2 intake even if the ls2 is ported. I guarantee with a fast intake my ls2 would gain 15-20whp. Im curious to see more combos with these cams in the future. I highly recommend them.
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Great gains. I remember seeing your car there. Looks like the stage 1 is a great cam as well. I really think the secret to these street heat cams are the Intakes. I have the stage 2 on my ls2 and i made 420whp. The ls3 intake is obviously better than the ls2 intake even if the ls2 is ported. I guarantee with a fast intake my ls2 would gain 15-20whp. Im curious to see more combos with these cams in the future. I highly recommend them.
Actually the Street Heat Stage 1 for this car is meant for a rectangle port head where as yours is a cathedral port head. The valve events are different with each and are tailored for each combination.
The LS3 heads are much larger in intake runner cc and in valve diameter so ultimately they will make more power than your LS2 heads with a smaller cam which the Stage 1 is smaller than your Stage 2 for cathedral port heads. In comparison the Stage 2 for rectangle port engines is 231/242 113+5 and the Stage 1 is 226/236 .605"/.578" 114+4.
Also the LS3 has more cubic inches than your motor does, and with a 6 speed there is no reason this car wouldn't make 450rwhp if not 460rwhp.
Don't worry you'll be right there with them soon!
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im leaning toward this cam setup for my wifes old truck(69 chevy cst)...how would it work out in a ls2 with stock ls3 heads(maybe milling them a bit for more compression?)but i need to know if that would be worth it for power or ptv problems...3000lbs,2600 stalled th350,3.08 gears,1 3/4 headers with true 2 1/2 duals out the back and its a carb'd setup also....will this be a good cam choice or does it need to be on a different lsa...i like the way aziz's camaro sounds and i want a good torque curve that pulls to 6500...any input will be appreciated....thanks billy
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im leaning toward this cam setup for my wifes old truck(69 chevy cst)...how would it work out in a ls2 with stock ls3 heads(maybe milling them a bit for more compression?)but i need to know if that would be worth it for power or ptv problems...3000lbs,2600 stalled th350,3.08 gears,1 3/4 headers with true 2 1/2 duals out the back and its a carb'd setup also....will this be a good cam choice or does it need to be on a different lsa...i like the way aziz's camaro sounds and i want a good torque curve that pulls to 6500...any input will be appreciated....thanks billy
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Nice job Martin.
Just for reference, I'm pretty sure that cam will make 450 in a 6 speed.
My stage 2 blower cam is a 226/238 115+3 and in a 2010 GS with headers and no CAI it made 450/410. Drives dam like stock and has a slight lope that can all be taken away depending on how you set up the timing tables.
After seeing all these results I'm really looking forward to see how my 365 with LSA heads and YSi does.
Keep up the good work Martin!
Just for reference, I'm pretty sure that cam will make 450 in a 6 speed.
My stage 2 blower cam is a 226/238 115+3 and in a 2010 GS with headers and no CAI it made 450/410. Drives dam like stock and has a slight lope that can all be taken away depending on how you set up the timing tables.
After seeing all these results I'm really looking forward to see how my 365 with LSA heads and YSi does.
Keep up the good work Martin!
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Nice job Martin.
Just for reference, I'm pretty sure that cam will make 450 in a 6 speed.
My stage 2 blower cam is a 226/238 115+3 an in a 2010 GS with headers and no CAI it made 450/410. Drives dam like stock and has a slight lope that can all be taken away depending on how you set up the timing tables.
After seeing all these results I'm really looking forward to see how my 365 with LSA heads and YSi does.
Keep up the good work Martin!
Just for reference, I'm pretty sure that cam will make 450 in a 6 speed.
My stage 2 blower cam is a 226/238 115+3 an in a 2010 GS with headers and no CAI it made 450/410. Drives dam like stock and has a slight lope that can all be taken away depending on how you set up the timing tables.
After seeing all these results I'm really looking forward to see how my 365 with LSA heads and YSi does.
Keep up the good work Martin!
Thanks for the compliments, it may not be the most impressive numbers ever, but for the size cam it has I'm impressed. This cam also drives like stock with a stock converter no less. We dropped the idle all the way to 750rpm to get it to idle like that and I'm sure Jonathan tweaked the tables slightly but it certainly lopes. So you think 460/420 is out of the question with a 6 speed?
If you want to bounce some ideas of me for your new cam I would be glad to talk events and lobes with you.
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Yes the cam profile would work with LS3 style heads. The cam I would use is the SNS Torque Max Stage 1 (223/231 .610"/.617" 110+2) for a heavy truck with a tight stall that needs torque and still able to rev to 6200-6400 if wanted. Is it a single plane intake manifold on her truck?
I'll send you a PM too.
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Yes the cam profile would work with LS3 style heads. The cam I would use is the SNS Torque Max Stage 1 (223/231 .610"/.617" 110+2) for a heavy truck with a tight stall that needs torque and still able to rev to 6200-6400 if wanted. Is it a single plane intake manifold on her truck?
I'll send you a PM too.
I'll send you a PM too.