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Old 12-26-2012, 04:40 PM
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Default Polluter V.2 CAM ONLY numbers inside!

SO, we finally got our chance to test out the new V.2 Polluter in a customers car here at the shop. The car has very basic modifications and is about as basic as they come. This was a, "make me as much power as possible cam-only" build. Only one way to do that at Tick Performance and that's with a POLLUTER!

Modifications are as follows:

Stock LS1 shortblock
Stock LS1 heads, stock compression, stock port work
Stock LS6 intake, Stock TB, Stock MAF
SLP Lid
TSP 1x7/8" headers
TSP 3" True Duals with bullets
Motive 3.90 gears
Polluter V.2 239/244 .624"/.595" 112+3
Brian Tooley Racing "Platinum" springs .660" lift w/ Tool Steel Retainers
Stock Rockers
Manley Hardened 5/16" .080" push rods

Basically the most simple modifications possible with our basic cam kit. The results will impress you for sure, especially the torque......



425rwhp@6300rpm/395rwtq@4850rpm....SAE numbers were 417/393.

We're going to make one or two more pulls to see if we can get a little more out of it and clean the graph up a little, but overall it's pretty much dialed in and has exceeded our expectations here at the shop on "The Heartbreaker" we like to call our Dyno Jet.

Here is an idle clip:

I'm also very impressed and pleased at how quiet the valve-train is. The combination of lobes is really working well with each other.

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What was the baseline pre cam?

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Niiiiice he could get close to 440whp with some more supporting mods!
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auto or 6spd?

and hows the driveability?? dont sugar coat it either lol
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Originally Posted by Tainted
Niiiiice he could get close to 440whp with some more supporting mods!
They are prob going for the cam only record lol
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
What was the baseline pre cam?

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Ron,

There was no base line.
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Niiiiice he could get close to 440whp with some more supporting mods!
If the owner wants to do that, that'd be awesome, it is already very strong.
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auto or 6spd?

and hows the driveability?? dont sugar coat it either lol
6spd....I Honestly dont know yet as it was raining all day here. Hopefully the 3.90s help to tame it down. I would expect some surge at slow speeds though.
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They are prob going for the cam only record lol
Nope, not going for any records just showing what we're capable of here. :-) With that said anyone know what the highest true cam only dyno number is and I mean true cam only like this one through mufflers?
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
They are prob going for the cam only record lol
With TSP 1x7/8" headers, TSP 3" True Duals with bullets I would not exactly call that "cam only".
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Is this on the stock clutch?
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cam and bolt on exhaust its still a pretty darn strong set up....with thexception of a spring upgrade it has untouched stock heads,untouched stock bottom end,untouched intake and throttle body...internally it is "cam only"
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Originally Posted by 1989GTA
With TSP 1x7/8" headers, TSP 3" True Duals with bullets I would not exactly call that "cam only".
Exhaust has nothing to do with it. Stock heads, compression, intake, and bottom end=cam only.
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since when are intakes and throttle bodies internal?

Stock bottom end, untouched factory heads - cam only
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
Is this on the stock clutch?
Mike I'm not 100% on that info I'll have to ask.
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cam and bolt on exhaust its still a pretty darn strong set up....with thexception of a spring upgrade it has untouched stock heads,untouched stock bottom end,untouched intake and throttle body...internally it is "cam only"
What he said^
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Exhaust has nothing to do with it. Stock heads, compression, intake, and bottom end=cam only.
And this guy^

I'm really loving the power curve this cam has it is not near as peaky as I thought it would be. It looks so similar to welder Mike's 418 graph it's not even funny.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
since when are intakes and throttle bodies internal?

Stock bottom end, untouched factory heads - cam only
Take it easy on my man Mike...he gets excited some times:-)

When you gonna let me do that cam for your new ls3?
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Take it easy on my man Mike...he gets excited some times:-)

When you gonna let me do that cam for your new ls3?
Pat G is already specing it out for me

However when im visiting family in nc i should stop in I pass through mt airy every time
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Originally Posted by BlueBird346
Exhaust has nothing to do with it. Stock heads, compression, intake, and bottom end=cam only.
Let me ask you this. Would the gains have been the same without the 1 7/8" long tube headers and 3" dual exhaust versus the factory exhaust system still being in place?
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Originally Posted by 1989GTA
Let me ask you this. Would the gains have been the same without the 1 7/8" long tube headers and 3" dual exhaust versus the factory exhaust system still being in place?
let me ask you this. Who the hell does a cam and doesn't do full exhaust also? Awesome numbers OP, you got me thinking about changing my build now.
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Thats very impressive Martin! Is that engine using stock lifters? What length pushrods?

If you were to build a max effort type motor what heads and intake would you run with this cam?

I'm impressed with the flatness of the tq curve and the torque overall with this setup.

Hopefully you can get some dyno time on the 111lsa version soon too.
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Originally Posted by 1989GTA
Let me ask you this. Would the gains have been the same without the 1 7/8" long tube headers and 3" dual exhaust versus the factory exhaust system still being in place?
You've been a member since 05 and you still don't understand the meaning of the term "cam only"? Mind= blown
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Originally Posted by 1989GTA
Let me ask you this. Would the gains have been the same without the 1 7/8" long tube headers and 3" dual exhaust versus the factory exhaust system still being in place?
Are you serious or just trolling?
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Pat G is already specing it out for me

However when im visiting family in nc i should stop in I pass through mt airy every time
Aw man, I feel left out now.... lol

Stop by anytime man! You're more than welcome at our shop whenever!
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let me ask you this. Who the hell does a cam and doesn't do full exhaust also? Awesome numbers OP, you got me thinking about changing my build now.
Thank you very much.
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Thats very impressive Martin! Is that engine using stock lifters? What length pushrods?

If you were to build a max effort type motor what heads and intake would you run with this cam?

I'm impressed with the flatness of the tq curve and the torque overall with this setup.

Hopefully you can get some dyno time on the 111lsa version soon too.
Stock lifters, 7.400" push rods, .055-.060" pre-load is what we normally set them up with.

Any set of TEA, PRC, AI, Livernois, Cartek etc. stock heads would be down right nasty with this camshaft as would a set of AFR's, TFS, PRC aftermarket heads and the list goes on. That said I would keep the port volume in the 205-225cc range and not exceed that as the IVC event on this camshaft with a 225cc+ intake runner would probably have it peaking around 6600-6700 or more. That large of a runner would need an earlier IVC event IMO. A Fast intake manifold or a single plane intake manifold would be right at home with this camshaft also as would a Pro-Flo XT or Hi-Ram intake.

I am also very impressed with the power curve it has for being a "donkey-dick" style of cam. I know some will say this is just hokus pokus cam voodoo, but the intensity and characteristics of the lobes used is just as important as the events that they create. This combination of lobes has always impressed me in every aspect from power, to drivability and to how quiet the valve-train is. The 111LSA will probably make 4-5rwhp more peak and 2-3rwtq at peak over the 112LSA version.

Here are the final numbers guys and a cleaner graph, we didn't make 430rwhp, but we tried:

STD:


SAE:
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Pretty bad *** numbers. Nice job.


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