expected more out of my tsp 408 247 heads and ms4
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expected more out of my tsp 408 247 heads and ms4
99 camaro m6 stock 10 bolt 411 gears
tsp 408
prc 247 heads
ms4 cam
fast 92/92
42 lb racetronix injectors. racetronix hotwire/fuel pump kit
arh 1 7/8 longtube headers no cats flowmaster cat back
only put down 478 rwhp and 460 rwtq
what coud be liniting these numbers? and what do you guys suggest i do next?
tsp 408
prc 247 heads
ms4 cam
fast 92/92
42 lb racetronix injectors. racetronix hotwire/fuel pump kit
arh 1 7/8 longtube headers no cats flowmaster cat back
only put down 478 rwhp and 460 rwtq
what coud be liniting these numbers? and what do you guys suggest i do next?
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Is the flowmaster catback part of a mufflex system or is it the Flowmaster catback set up? I'd wager that's where your leaving some power on the table. True duals with an x or h pipe will be considerably better over a flowmaster catback! If its the Muffelx system then you may need to upgrade to the 4" set up to get the gains you want if you wish to stay with a Y pipe. If it is just the Flowmaster catback I'll be honest, although it sounds good, some have actually lost HP over a stock set up but most just see a zero gain.
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Its an old *** flowmaster that came with the car. Not mufflex. I kinda figured this was holding me back. With this motor the rasp starts before I even hit 2k rpm. I have been looking into kooks true dual setup as I daily drive this car lol. What do you think on their 3.5 inch system?
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Remove the chokemaster and gain 30 rwhp
Or run 3" duals and gain 40+ rwhp. A custom cam would also help. What kind of vacuum (kpa)is the motor pulling at wot. Any restrictions in intake (small maf or small coupler)?
Or run 3" duals and gain 40+ rwhp. A custom cam would also help. What kind of vacuum (kpa)is the motor pulling at wot. Any restrictions in intake (small maf or small coupler)?
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To run their duals I'm going to also have to buy their headers. They sell 1 7/8 headers that go with their 3 inch true dual and 2 inch headers that go with their 3.5 inch system. So I really don't wanna regret spending all that cash if I def won't need the bigger ones.
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To run their duals I'm going to also have to buy their headers. They sell 1 7/8 headers that go with their 3 inch true dual and 2 inch headers that go with their 3.5 inch system. So I really don't wanna regret spending all that cash if I def won't need the bigger ones.
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What else do you guys think I should get besides the full exhaust. I was thinking a ported fast 102/102, tsp 100mm maf, ftp 104mm lid, and a ati 10% ud balancer. How's that sound and then later on ill figure out the cam situation once all the supporting mods are there
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Go with the plan in the above post and the headers with true duals. I think the heads are at least 10cc to large if not 20. That is hurting you. For heads that big you will need a cam in the high 240's to high 250's minimum to take advantage on a 408. You will also have to mill them pretty well to get the 12.0+ compression you are going to need to run that cam. A ported 92 will take you to 575+rw. It was proven on my 416. But the 102/100 won't hurt. I would ditch the MAF and so CLSD or COSIII but that is just me. MAF's have come a long way and may not be a restriction any more if you size it correctly. Don't be dissapointed in your numbers now. It just looks like a bad set up honestly. ARH and Kooks headers are almost carbon copies. Are you shure Kooks true duals won't bolt up?
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I was thinking a ported fast 102/102, tsp 100mm maf, ftp 104mm lid, and a ati 10% ud balancer. How's that sound and then later on ill figure out the cam situation once all the supporting mods are there
You might not need the FAST 102, but a 4" MAF and 4" lid would help you tremendously.
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Positive theirs a difference in lengths and the only exhaust shop near me is arh so I don't think they'd be happy if I asked them to fab something up between their headers and kooks true duals. Also remember this is my daily driver not a race car, tsp told me this is the highest conpression I can run on 93 octane.
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a single 3" can flow alot more air than people think. i did the stock maf/7x mm lid to 85mm maf/98 mm lid and picked up quite a bit of power. since it is a dd i would just get a better flowing muffler and bigger maf,lid and coupler and a cutout and get a retune. with just those changes you should be an easy 505-510 throuh the exhaust and pick up another 15 or so with the cutout open.
my junk setup is similar to yours. i have a 90/90 that i just got rid of the ridges on the inside of intake and blended smooth. only 1 3/4 qtp headers also. 517 rwhp through a hooker catback. 536 with the single 3" cutout open. and that is through a 9 " 3.89 combo.
my junk setup is similar to yours. i have a 90/90 that i just got rid of the ridges on the inside of intake and blended smooth. only 1 3/4 qtp headers also. 517 rwhp through a hooker catback. 536 with the single 3" cutout open. and that is through a 9 " 3.89 combo.
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i would have defiantly gone with 102/102 fast's Tsp 100mm maf, 104ftp.
and stick with the 1 7/8 although your system is just a kill.
y-pipe, anything else than a chokemaster as Brennen's01SS said. (that really made me lol).
perhaps some stated that your heads are larger.. i'd look into that once i'm done with the above .. still not satisfied well then cam swap time.
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and stick with the 1 7/8 although your system is just a kill.
y-pipe, anything else than a chokemaster as Brennen's01SS said. (that really made me lol).
perhaps some stated that your heads are larger.. i'd look into that once i'm done with the above .. still not satisfied well then cam swap time.
gl