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Old 09-18-2013, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwarta
I hope you didn't take my post as bashing, That was strictly for comparison sake.
No not at all....it was kinda on confusing tho lol

Didnt know what was done to either cars, specs would help

E85 is a different ball game also for HP numbers
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Fast intake and a good set of heads would be 465-480 ish. It would run damn good.
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Sucky part is, to fit a FAST under the Cowl of a C5 ya have to buy shorter Motor Mounts + Lowered C5 = Headers Dragging the Ground......GREAT! Nice job FAST!!!!!! NOT!

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Originally Posted by 1999Firehawkls7
Sucky part is, to fit a FAST under the Cowl of a C5 ya have to buy shorter Motor Mounts + Lowered C5 = Heads Dragging the Ground......GREAT! Nice job FAST!!!!!! NOT!
Have you considered LS3 heads? This way you pick up HP with the heads plus you could run the LS3 intake(additional HP) over the LS6 w/o having to deal with the Fast.
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Just for comparison:
I have 06 LS2 from GTO (34k) in 89 Formula; 382 rwhp (Mustang Dyno) with CAI and 2" primaries, everything else stock, thru A4 w/ 3.27. 0 knock retard tune (92 octane) and the knock sensors were very sensitive as well.

Figuring:
Medium cam = 40hp = 420
ported heads=40hp = 460
intake & other assorted=20hp = 475-485 Total
Old 09-19-2013, 08:14 AM
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Don't sweat the dyno numbers. You could go on another dyno today and read 450 rwhp and different dyno tomorrow and it read 400 rwhp.

Use the same dyno if you can to measure the performance gained by going to a different intake, cam. heads, ect.
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Originally Posted by 1999Firehawkls7
No not at all....it was kinda on confusing tho lol

Didnt know what was done to either cars, specs would help

E85 is a different ball game also for HP numbers
Sorry, my car was a H/C ls2 boltons and put down 454/425

The dyno sheet is for a light Bolton MS3 cam ls2 car.
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Have you considered LS3 heads? This way you pick up HP with the heads plus you could run the LS3 intake(additional HP) over the LS6 w/o having to deal with the Fast.
I did a bunch of reading and I dont think its worth the swap to Ls3 unless your 413 or bigger CI Size.....We tuned a 408 w ls3 top end and I think my Cam only Ms4 Ls1 would of went around it lol
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Most cam only C5Z's make 420 or so. Bolt on C5Z's are in the 380+ range. I don't see the gain in swapping a LS2 when you already had a LS6. I would have made the LS2 a 402!
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Ls2 was in the Car when I got it, the Ls6 that was in it Broke a Spring and Dropped a Valve....End of LS6 lol
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Sure they do. The dyno dynamics are about 3.5% lower(I've been on both). That puts me at 431whp/408wtq. I'm about 400lb lighter than stock.


I disagree that just because it is a dyno dynamics it will read lower. Being a load cell dyno, if the operator adjusts rate of acceleration (feet per second) it will skew the numbers considerably pull on pull.

Dyno dynamics I made 546rwhp. Ran 10.54@122.x floating the valves at 6,800ish 50 feet before the finish. 60' was a 1.54.

Fixed thevalvetrain issue.

On the Dynojet I made 516rwhp with 26* timing. With only 23* timing at the track I went 10.60 @ 124.x. 60' was a 1.57. That 3* of advance showed me roughly 10rwhp on the dyno.

My point, with about 505rwhp on the Dynojet, I ran almost exactly what I did with 546rwhp from the dyno dynamics with similar weather.


Comparing different makes of dyno's is just not a good comparison.
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I agree. I was at a dyno day last weekend on a Dynojet that was bad bad low. Most cars were around 40rwhp low.

Broke some hearts for sure.



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