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Old 06-25-2017, 11:04 PM
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Hi,

Im hitting the dyno in 2 weeks just want to see what everyones thoughts are on what its going to make.

Car is an 02 Ws6 M6 RSG Viperspec Tranny, Heres the previous combo:

430rwhp/396 rwtq SAE
-Stock bottom end
-11.1 Compression, 243 heads milled .030, CNCd, 2.08/1.57 manley race valves
-TSP 228r .600/.600 112 LSA Cam
-Ported Fast 92/92 intake/NW TB
-1 3/4 QTP headers, texas speed y, Magnaflow CB
-Mosier 12 bolt, 8.8 truetrac


New build:
The same configuration as above but added:
-2 Bar SD Tune
-Seimens 60LB injectors
-D1SC procharger 8 rib w/4.5 twin intercoolers, 4.50" pulley
-Lonnies dual pumps
-Alky control 100% meth injection

So far the car has a "Frost" base tune. After taking it for a couple street runs it maxed out @9.7 psi at 6500rpm. Car feels pretty slow but thats probably because its drowning in fuel with the methanol. Timing is set at 16 degrees.

Im eager to hear some dyno estimates. I will of course post back once the results are in.

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At 10 psi I would say close to 600 rwhp
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If you pull to 6500 I'd guess 625-650.
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Feels slow? Wow.
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Do you have a WB? Whats the A/F showing as?
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no wb at the moment. I actually figured it would only pull 6 to 7 psi with my heads/intake combo but apparently its not as efficient as i thought.

When i say it feels slow it seems like its lacking the throttle response that the NA combo had. I think it will wake up once it gets dynoed on the 8th

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Originally Posted by Formula934
no wb at the moment. I actually figured it would only pull 6 to 7 psi with my heads/intake combo but apparently its not as efficient as i thought.

When i say it feels slow it seems like its lacking the throttle response that the NA combo had. I think it will wake up once it gets dynoed on the 8th
It should wake right up with a dyno tune.
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Interested to see your results. I just finished a H/C/I build with 11:1 CR and still might have the itch for a little more.
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
It should wake right up with a dyno tune.
+1 on this, i would say the D1SC will be good for an extra ~200hp so 6-630
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What's your ultimate goal?

Throw a FMIC on it with a 3.8 pulley on it. Do you have e85 in your area? I like high compression builds and the corn would be a great match on your setup.
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03
What's your ultimate goal?

Throw a FMIC on it with a 3.8 pulley on it. Do you have e85 in your area? I like high compression builds and the corn would be a great match on your setup.
100 % Street car with great drivability is my ultimate goal. Id like to try to keep the block and lower end in one piece for awhile anyways. Honestly, id be very happy breaking into 600-650rwhp territory. Id definately be on the E85 if it were offered more in my area (theres only one E85 pump in all of central mass).
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that 4.5 pulley is too big . Im running a stock engine and cam , running a 8.65 crank and 3.7 procharger pulley making about 13.5 to 14 lbs at 6500 . I Just think that 4.5 with a 7.65 crank is too small . Do a 3.4 and get a much boost as you can and taper timing off . That way you have more boost down low
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Originally Posted by ramairetransam
that 4.5 pulley is too big . Im running a stock engine and cam , running a 8.65 crank and 3.7 procharger pulley making about 13.5 to 14 lbs at 6500 . I Just think that 4.5 with a 7.65 crank is too small . Do a 3.4 and get a much boost as you can and taper timing off . That way you have more boost down low
He's on a stock bottom end. Unless he's going to go to a wastegated setup, running that small of a pulley is not a good idea.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
He's on a stock bottom end. Unless he's going to go to a wastegated setup, running that small of a pulley is not a good idea.
okay i missed the stock bottom end part. Still i think a 4.0 pulley would be a better start .
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Originally Posted by ramairetransam
that 4.5 pulley is too big . Im running a stock engine and cam , running a 8.65 crank and 3.7 procharger pulley making about 13.5 to 14 lbs at 6500 . I Just think that 4.5 with a 7.65 crank is too small . Do a 3.4 and get a much boost as you can and taper timing off . That way you have more boost down low
Maybe down the road...Im already at 172 kpa so any more boost would max out my 2 bar setup. Also, id like to keep the bottom end together as i think im at the limits now.
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Originally Posted by ramairetransam
okay i missed the stock bottom end part. Still i think a 4.0 pulley would be a better start .
I run a 4" pulley, so far about 7psi, but I have a big cam.
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Crank the meth up and throw the smaller pulley on it.
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Originally Posted by Formula934
Hi,

Im hitting the dyno in 2 weeks just want to see what everyones thoughts are on what its going to make.

Car is an 02 Ws6 M6 RSG Viperspec Tranny, Heres the previous combo:

430rwhp/396 rwtq SAE
-Stock bottom end
-11.1 Compression, 243 heads milled .030, CNCd, 2.08/1.57 manley race valves
-TSP 228r .600/.600 112 LSA Cam
-Ported Fast 92/92 intake/NW TB
-1 3/4 QTP headers, texas speed y, Magnaflow CB
-Mosier 12 bolt, 8.8 truetrac


New build:
The same configuration as above but added:
-2 Bar SD Tune
-Seimens 60LB injectors
-D1SC procharger 8 rib w/4.5 twin intercoolers, 4.50" pulley
-Lonnies dual pumps
-Alky control 100% meth injection

So far the car has a "Frost" base tune. After taking it for a couple street runs it maxed out @9.7 psi at 6500rpm. Car feels pretty slow but thats probably because its drowning in fuel with the methanol. Timing is set at 16 degrees.

Im eager to hear some dyno estimates. I will of course post back once the results are in.

Boost seems too high for your combination with a D-1SC and a 4.50 pulley. I'd check it with a second boost gauge. I'd expect 6 to 7 psi with your combination. Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
Boost seems too high for your combination with a D-1SC and a 4.50 pulley. I'd check it with a second boost gauge. I'd expect 6 to 7 psi with your combination. Bob
I was expecting the same results when i ordered the 4.5" pulley from you. The 9.7 psi is on the high end, its averaging about 8-8.2 psi @6000 rpm. I figured on the intake and heads bringing down the boost a bit but maybe the cam isnt bleeding off much boost and maybe the exhaust isnt all that efficient. I think if i were to put a cut out on it or step up the headers it may bring down the boost. According to hp tuners, the kpa readings off the map on the back of the intake seem to reflect accurate readings and i am using the boost pid map sensor 2 bar - baro, which is getting a true baro reading i think. I guess it wouldnt hurt to get another reading from a different source though.


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