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Old 10-25-2017, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28 View Post
How many pounds do the Swiss cheese mod knock off ?
Do the car still have heat and air?
Cloth car or leather car ?
Heat and air, leather seats...all of them. Full interior..its a street car not a tin can.

This was race weight with 1/8 tank, drag fronts and 17" ZR1 and 275 drag radials with out driver. Ill weight my new rears but the old set up was 45lbs each. Full TD exhaust front to back, AIR and EGR deleted


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Old 10-25-2017, 11:37 AM
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Weight looks spot on. Mine weighed 3240 with your same setup and lack of weight reduction.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
You can typically get 8-10lb out of each of the bumper supports depending on how much cheese you want.

The difference in weight between a cloth vs leather seat is minimal. About 6lb total for the entire set on a camaro. I've weighed cloth vs leather. Power seat is about 6lb difference vs none power.
Is it easy to swap to a manual seat from a power seat? It is hard to find a manual set one at the yards
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It would be dirt simple if you had the maual tracks mm



Hell they can go into the 31xx range with stock k, control arms, hood, full interior, full hvac system ect.

Just gotta pay attention to what your doin, choose parts wisely and don't weigh it down with sub frame connectors, iron blocks, engine covers, strut tower braces, heavier than stock wheels and strut tower braces.

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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
It would be dirt simple if you had the maual tracks mm



Hell they can go into the 31xx range with stock k, control arms, hood, full interior, full hvac system ect.

Just gotta pay attention to what your doin, choose parts wisely and don't weigh it down with sub frame connectors, iron blocks, engine covers, strut tower braces, heavier than stock wheels and strut tower braces.
I want to thank you and theecamarokid for the responses on the weight. Very useful information for sure. Speaking of iron block I just ditched a LQ block for a LS2 block in 6 speed Z28. I can certainly feel the difference. Car even feels more responsive with the same heads, cam and intake.
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Sure man....sorry to mention strut tower brace twice ....lol. I got carried away there.

Last time i had my car on the scales it was 3074lb on the stock ss wheels. That was with no hood tho. Full hvac, full stereo, cruise, full interior, 9", both sway bars, lightened stock k/a arms. There is weight everywhere on these cars. Just gotta look for it and sometimes work for it a little.

Things like a clutch can save significant weight. My clutch is 41lb lighter than the ls7 clutch everyone thorows in these thing. Battery can save 35lb....or you can move it to the back and add weight. Which is not necessarily a bad plan. Cat back can save 20+lb over the stock stuff not to mention the full system that can lead to more weight savings. Right there is about 100lb alot of people pay no mind to at all.
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Good job Jay!
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
Sure man....sorry to mention strut tower brace twice ....lol. I got carried away there.

Last time i had my car on the scales it was 3074lb on the stock ss wheels. That was with no hood tho. Full hvac, full stereo, cruise, full interior, 9", both sway bars, lightened stock k/a arms. There is weight everywhere on these cars. Just gotta look for it and sometimes work for it a little.

Things like a clutch can save significant weight. My clutch is 41lb lighter than the ls7 clutch everyone thorows in these thing. Battery can save 35lb....or you can move it to the back and add weight. Which is not necessarily a bad plan. Cat back can save 20+lb over the stock stuff not to mention the full system that can lead to more weight savings. Right there is about 100lb alot of people pay no mind to at all.
So even with a big guy like me at 250 pounds... it sounds fairly easy to get a camaro to weigh 34XX with the driver. That's awesome.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
Last time i had my car on the scales it was 3074lb on the stock ss wheels. That was with no hood tho. Full hvac, full stereo, cruise, full interior, 9", both sway bars, lightened stock k/a arms. There is weight everywhere on these cars. Just gotta look for it and sometimes work for it a little.
That's light! My formula, gutted of all removable items (removed all interior and creature comforts, catback, lightweight battery, 17x4's up front and 16x8's out back) weighed 3002. All that netted a 348# reduction. Guess I need to learn a few things still
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Is it easy to swap to a manual seat from a power seat? It is hard to find a manual set one at the yards
I’m actually going to do this MM. I have the seat bracket. Got it used from Hawks and painted it. Looks like a simple swap really.
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Originally Posted by Jenson
That's light! My formula, gutted of all removable items (removed all interior and creature comforts, catback, lightweight battery, 17x4's up front and 16x8's out back) weighed 3002. All that netted a 348# reduction. Guess I need to learn a few things still
Hmmm. I have a 98 WS6, t top car. Still had hvac but no ac, stock front bumper support, stock ws6 hood, tubular k member and a arms, manual trans with 30# clutch, lightest 9” I could have made with dual caliper drag brakes, drag pack with radials front and back, true dual exhaust, lightweight battery, full interior, full stereo with one subwoofer in back and weighed 3047. I’ve done a few mods since so it will be lighter now. It’s crazy to me how much these cars differ in weight but definitely with the right touches they can be very light. It seems the Camaros are even lighter, especially the hard top cars like Mike and Hio have
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How many pounds gets loss ditching the power seat for a maneal seat ?
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28 View Post
How many pounds gets loss ditching the power seat for a maneal seat ?
HioSS mentioned 6 lbs.
Man, you guys are making my foxbody feel heavy haha. I'd give it a diet too but we have mobile police inspection units that make sure you have factory impact beams in the front and back
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I have a hard top formula, which is supposed to be the lightest F of them all. I have always questioned that though, as the headlights and wing on the formula are heavier than camaro parts. I can only assume people mean in stock form the camaro is heavier. It will be interesting to see what mine weighs this time out with a very small converter and headers instead of manifolds. Then next will be putting on my gutted doors with lexan, coilovers, and tubular A arms, hope to get it to 2800# without cutting anything.
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Originally Posted by foxsl View Post
HioSS mentioned 6 lbs.
Man, you guys are making my foxbody feel heavy haha. I'd give it a diet too but we have mobile police inspection units that make sure you have factory impact beams in the front and back
Now I see that. Good looking out. I love the fact that a fourth gen can weigh alot less with some work here and there. It'll put a fourth gen in third gen camaro weight territory.
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Originally Posted by foxsl View Post
HioSS mentioned 6 lbs.
Man, you guys are making my foxbody feel heavy haha. I'd give it a diet too but we have mobile police inspection units that make sure you have factory impact beams in the front and back
Wow, really? Where do you live?
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My 87 TPI 305 formula was around 3380 stock. Overall they weren't that light. GTA's were closer to 3600 IIRC.
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My 87 TPI 305 formula was around 3380 stock. Overall they weren't that light. GTA's were closer to 3600 IIRC.
I never owned a third gen myself but I see guys on here and else where saying a third gen is lighter than fourth gen cars....
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28 View Post
I never owned a third gen myself but I see guys on here and else where saying a third gen is lighter than fourth gen cars....
They can be. Ls swap helps a lot. 3rd Gen engines are all iron
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Originally Posted by foxsl View Post
HioSS mentioned 6 lbs.
Man, you guys are making my foxbody feel heavy haha. I'd give it a diet too but we have mobile police inspection units that make sure you have factory impact beams in the front and back
My termi swapped notch weighs 3060 on quarry scales with bumper supports and that heavy *** termi motor. It has full hvac with ac , full interior, jack/spare, stereo in it. It does have full tube suspension.

With a aluminum na ls motor in it you coukd drop 300ish lbs off that and still have everything in it.

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I never owned a third gen myself but I see guys on here and else where saying a third gen is lighter than fourth gen cars....
From working on them both i would say the difference is minimal. The 4gen has some built in reinforments but also has fiberglass doors & decklid/ plastic fenders. The old iron sbc would have to be heavier in the 3rd gen but the interior is likely lighter than a 4gen with less sound deadening.
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