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Old 06-19-2018, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000z28franz
Ok ill get back to u thank u
you also need to find out where you are shifting at. You should be shifting around 6700 rpms. If you are shifting at around 6200 that means your shift extensions are around 5000 rpms. Look at your graph and you will see at 5000 rpms you are not making much power after your shifts. Now if you spin it to 67-6800 rpms you may see shift extensions around 5900 rpms so look at your graph and you will see you would be making a lot more power after your shifts.
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I think your primary issue is a late IVC as indicated by your cam specs with a low compression ration - assuming stock since its cam only. I think you either need compression or less cam.
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Good call! I don't think many guys realize how much dynamic compression is lost with a donkey dick cam.
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Originally Posted by qweedqwag
I made 400 with 243 heads, ls6 intake, 1 7/8 headers 3 inch exhaust I made 400 hp 375 torque.
what cam? Auto or 6 speed? Reason I'm asking is I have same setup except LS1 intake, swapping to LS6 this weekend, with 230 234 600 602 111 lsa cam and only made 365 365 and I think it's low.
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Originally Posted by timothy_5326

what cam? Auto or 6 speed? Reason I'm asking is I have same setup except LS1 intake, swapping to LS6 this weekend, with 230 234 600 602 111 lsa cam and only made 365 365 and I think it's low.
The LS1 intake held it back a bunch. Putting the LS6 intake on will do you a big favor!
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Here's why... Your heads don't flow the airflow that cam needs and the intake is overkill for 853 heads + 3.23 gears suck for drag racing situations. Invest is some heads that flow good in the .200 - .500 range and I would get some gear 3.73 to 4.11.... Your problem lies in your cylinder heads, you can have the best intake,cam, and tbody but if the heads dont flow to the required specs it is all a waste.
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Probably worth checking the tune details like mentioned above. Seems like something is off due to stalling at stop lights and when turning the wheel .

My bolt on M6 99TA use to trap 108.x mph with 323whp 335 wtq several times.

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Originally Posted by SRT8.Acelleration
Here's why... Your heads don't flow the airflow that cam needs and the intake is overkill for 853 heads + 3.23 gears suck for drag racing situations. Invest is some heads that flow good in the .200 - .500 range and I would get some gear 3.73 to 4.11.... Your problem lies in your cylinder heads, you can have the best intake,cam, and tbody but if the heads dont flow to the required specs it is all a waste.
what heads would you suggest.. best price aswell .. i skipped heads on the build originally b.c i couldnt afford them
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Originally Posted by 2000z28franz
what heads would you suggest.. best price aswell .. i skipped heads on the build originally b.c i couldnt afford them
Check out Brian tooley and the as cast TFS 220 heads he re works a little. For the price you cant go wrong.
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
Probably worth checking the tune details like mentioned above. Seems like something is off due to stalling at stop lights and when turning the wheel .

My bolt on M6 99TA use to trap 108.x mph with 323whp 335 wtq several times.

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I trapped 110 with bolt ons in my Formula with a 3200 stall he definitely should of had a little more MPH on that pass.
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Originally Posted by 2000z28franz
what heads would you suggest.. best price aswell .. i skipped heads on the build originally b.c i couldnt afford them

CALL THESE GUYS, ASK ABOUT PORTING THE HEADS YOU HAVE, 1/2 THE PRICE OF BUYING NEW.

https://frankensteined.net/#services
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http://www.headgamesmotorworks.com/

OR BUY SOME FROM THEM ALREADY DONE -- https://frankensteined.net/shop/gm-ls1-fed/

DONT WORRY ABOUT MAX FLOW AT .600 --- LOOK AT THE .200 - .500 RANGE, BETTER FLOW THERE = BETTER DESIGNED HEAD

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Originally Posted by SRT8.Acelleration
Here's why... Your heads don't flow the airflow that cam needs and the intake is overkill for 853 heads + 3.23 gears suck for drag racing situations. Invest is some heads that flow good in the .200 - .500 range and I would get some gear 3.73 to 4.11.... Your problem lies in your cylinder heads, you can have the best intake,cam, and tbody but if the heads dont flow to the required specs it is all a waste.
With his current setup imo he should be trapping a lot faster than 110 mph in NEGATIVE 1,100 ft. DA no matter what way you cut it



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