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Old 03-17-2019, 08:40 PM
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Can’t wait to see the track results with the L.O.D intake.
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Poverty 1

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16" Fbody wheels 26x9.5 QTP Hoosiers and GTO spares LOL or better known as poverty 1. Poverty 2 is my summer daily set up with Nitto 555s and 555r on 17" WS6 wheels.
Haha Hell yeah!! Okay I have 2 GTO spares with M&H front runners for my vettes drag pack as well Lol! I have some oem thin spokes 17x8.5, I was thinking of running a M&H slick 26x8.5x17 to get myself started in the budget track pack game. I think the rears are 19.x pounds each? I was concerned that 8.5 might be too narrow to hook, but also not afraid to try it out. Haven't purchased rear tires yet. How heavy are those 16s? I am just a c5z with full exhaust plus tune, think I should look into the 9.5" slick on a 16 for more sidewall and patch or roll with a 26x8.5 on a 17? Also did you grind on caliper or spindle any to fit those? stock c6 rear brakes? Don't mean to bombard with questions, just a young man tryna make it with a little ole c5..
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Originally Posted by FinalCam
Haha Hell yeah!! Okay I have 2 GTO spares with M&H front runners for my vettes drag pack as well Lol! I have some oem thin spokes 17x8.5, I was thinking of running a M&H slick 26x8.5x17 to get myself started in the budget track pack game. I think the rears are 19.x pounds each? I was concerned that 8.5 might be too narrow to hook, but also not afraid to try it out. Haven't purchased rear tires yet. How heavy are those 16s? I am just a c5z with full exhaust plus tune, think I should look into the 9.5" slick on a 16 for more sidewall and patch or roll with a 26x8.5 on a 17? Also did you grind on caliper or spindle any to fit those? stock c6 rear brakes? Don't mean to bombard with questions, just a young man tryna make it with a little ole c5..
Yes we had to grind on the upright a bit to clear the 16s but nothing major. I use a 26x9.5x16 hoosier QTP and have had successful 1.5x 60's. Should be able to get into the 1.4s this year i would think. I have stock brakes.
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Can a moderator please change the title of this thread to "Cheese Pak 2000"?
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HioSSilver is working on the hood to get the X1 intake where it belongs permanently.

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So what's the actual record for a stock sb Ls3 with ported heads? ET or dyno? TSP short block used Ls3 heads well before they went to Ls7 heads for better P to V clearance. Was a 9 second camaro before the switch. = 600 to the rear minimum with a good 60 ft. Basic math although Not listed. That car didn't weigh 3000 lbs or Less doing 9's with that set up. Just something to consider when you say a record.

If a record is Ever to be considered it Won't be With a Hyd roller.

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Originally Posted by Smokey B
So what's the actual record for a stock sb Ls3 with ported heads? ET or dyno? TSP short block used Ls3 heads well before they went to Ls7 heads for better P to V clearance. Was a 9 second camaro before the switch. = 600 to the rear minimum with a good 60 ft. Basic math although Not listed. That car didn't weigh 3000 lbs or Less doing 9's with that set up. Just something to consider when you say a record.

If a record is Ever to be considered it Won't be With a Hyd roller.
I think this is the most NA power that has been made with a hydraulic set up on a SBE LS3 with stock casting heads. The title was more for discussion purposes and not an actual RECORD. I mean face it, this thing is no more then a basic head/cam package surrounded by good supporting mods.
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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta
I think this is the most NA power that has been made with a hydraulic set up on a SBE LS3 with stock casting heads. The title was more for discussion purposes and not an actual RECORD. I mean face it, this thing is no more then a basic head/cam package surrounded by good supporting mods.
I never saw it as anything BUT as you describe, as I doubt anyone keeps track of any kind of record for something like this.
Having said ALL THAT, lol, what you have done with a "basic head/cam package surrounded by good supporting mods" PLUS meticulous attention to detail is nothing short of astounding!
I would say you know what you're doing...
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I never saw it as anything BUT as you describe, as I doubt anyone keeps track of any kind of record for something like this.
Having said ALL THAT, lol, what you have done with a "basic head/cam package surrounded by good supporting mods" PLUS meticulous attention to detail is nothing short of astounding!
I would say you know what you're doing...
Thanks so much! We try to do things right and still be budget friendly. LLSR could very well send this thing over 600?
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Good to know there IS a practical side to a project like this! Budget-friendly is always a good sign! lol
With LLSR and its inherent valvetrain stability, 600 MIGHT be within sight! But you would know far better than I would about that.
Keep us posted! Your threads are always educational!
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If the car goes 9s there is no sense improving on the engine. Next thing would be some adjustable shocks. Getting it done on Bilsteins will be a fun challenge.
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LLSR by itself may not be enough. It is worth a ton more than stock lifters (ls7 are stock btw). With your short travels you may not get quite the gains. But you got other stuff to do and only need 40 sae to get there - if it's even something you want to chase.
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Good fuel, bypass ps and the added injectors probably get it to 580sae. We still have to check port line up with the x1 vs the gpi heads....could be something there. I guess we'll see when we fit the intake permanently.
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Definitely not saying "can't". I've learned to not set limits on what something can do. Especially with HioCrew. I think it has more to do with Lazer's willingness to chase the number. But by itself, LLSR will likely not get it there, simply because he's running such a good hydraulic set up. if he was running ls7 lifters with the current power, I'd say LLSR would be enough.

Let's face it, the car will likely now run high nines and get tossed, so more power simply means less traction for daily driving. As it is now, he can drive the car on a 400 mile trip without fear. Not sure he would want to give that up to punch a number on a dyno?
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Definitely not saying "can't". I've learned to not set limits on what something can do. Especially with HioCrew. I think it has more to do with Lazer's willingness to chase the number. But by itself, LLSR will likely not get it there, simply because he's running such a good hydraulic set up. if he was running ls7 lifters with the current power, I'd say LLSR would be enough.

Let's face it, the car will likely now run high nines and get tossed, so more power simply means less traction for daily driving. As it is now, he can drive the car on a 400 mile trip without fear. Not sure he would want to give that up to punch a number on a dyno?
I agree 100% I honestly never thought the car would ever be as capable as it is. We had hoped for a consistent 10 second car and we achieved that easily. Now it should just be a consistent low 10 second car lol we shall see.
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But I know how this goes. It will be very hard just to leave it alone......
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Getting a clean pass on a 9.5" tire will be a bigger chore than making more power.
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Worked all weekend with HioSSilver getting the hood and intake installed. Had to make some custom parts of course.



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