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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 10:54 AM
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Dyno tuned my 01 z28 m6 a couple weeks ago, it made 385/366
stock ls1 bottom end stock 241 heads
228r .600/.600 112 lsa
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fast 36# injectors
racetronix 255lph pump

I figured I would have made at least 400 wheel, anyone else have similar experiences ?
Here’s a 50-100 speedo run for reference. Car hauls *** and feels great not disappointed in the slightest. I will need new tires very soon 😬🤣
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oaytttojkv...%20PM.mov?dl=0
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Sounds right. Stock heads, stock intake? Could squeeze another 40 or so out of it with heads and intake.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
Sounds right. Stock heads, stock intake? Could squeeze another 40 or so out of it with heads and intake.
yessir. Stock ls6 intake stock heads. Wish I did heads intake but I made a goal for the second week of September and busted *** on side jobs for one month straight to make it happen. Ended up spending an extra 1000-1500$ ish on extra stuff. Ran out of money and wanted it done
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yessir. Stock ls6 intake stock heads. Wish I did heads intake but I made a goal for the second week of September and busted *** on side jobs for one month straight to make it happen. Ended up spending an extra 1000-1500$ ish on extra stuff. Ran out of money and wanted it done
my 98 camaro made 387 with a slightly smaller cam 222/228, stock ls6 heads and intake. So your right in that ballpark.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
my 98 camaro made 387 with a slightly smaller cam 222/228, stock ls6 heads and intake. So your right in that ballpark.
perfect. My car has surprised everyone including me. Faster than I thought it would be
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I made 397 HP and 384TQ, I have a 98 so I have the stock 806 heads but I upgraded to the newer LS6 intake, 1 7/8 long tubes, and 36 # injectors.
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I made 397 HP and 384TQ, I have a 98 so I have the stock 806 heads but I upgraded to the newer LS6 intake, 1 7/8 long tubes, and 36 # injectors.
very nice. The more I talk to guys at meets, or on here... I think that dyno numbers have too much variance. A “385” hp car can whoop up on a “420”
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very nice. The more I talk to guys at meets, or on here... I think that dyno numbers have too much variance. A “385” hp car can whoop up on a “420”
hp car of similar weight.
Correct. A dyno is a tool nothing more. You can use it to measure gains on your personal vehicle but to use it to measure quarter mile times is silly. There are classes out there that cant make many engine modifications at all, 400 horsepower cars and running deep 10s. It's mostly about how you set it up. All in the combo.
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
Correct. A dyno is a tool nothing more. You can use it to measure gains on your personal vehicle but to use it to measure quarter mile times is silly. There are classes out there that cant make many engine modifications at all, 400 horsepower cars and running deep 10s. It's mostly about how you set it up. All in the combo.
100% agree it’s all in the combo. That’s why when people get hung up on dyno numbers, I tend to tell them it doesn’t really matter how much the dyno said it makes. It can vary car to car dyno to dyno temp to temp altitude, DA, humidity, ect.. for example, I’ve rolled against a terminator cobra 03 full exhaust, ported blower, big tire. Pulled almost 2 cars. Vs a 09 gt500 full exhaust stock blower I did pull 2 cars. Even pulled a car and a half on a 2014 mustang gt with the track pack, full exhaust - tune. Made 420/380 not to mention the car is gutted excluding the passenger seat.
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Originally Posted by 01z28228r
100% agree it’s all in the combo. That’s why when people get hung up on dyno numbers, I tend to tell them it doesn’t really matter how much the dyno said it makes. It can vary car to car dyno to dyno temp to temp altitude, DA, humidity, ect.. for example, I’ve rolled against a terminator cobra 03 full exhaust, ported blower, big tire. Pulled almost 2 cars. Vs a 09 gt500 full exhaust stock blower I did pull 2 cars. Even pulled a car and a half on a 2014 mustang gt with the track pack, full exhaust - tune. Made 420/380 not to mention the car is gutted excluding the passenger seat.
Gospel!! THE COMBO!!
AND the fact that dynos are for COMPARISON, NOT absolute numbers!. If your stock combo shows 75rwhp on the dyno and it shows 125 with mods, the 50rwhp gain is ALL you need to look at. Not that I would go back to that particular dyno... sheesh that's embarrassing... LOL
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Exactly, I was at 359 HP before the cam and injectors, so adding those got me almost 40 HP at the wheels.
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Gospel!! THE COMBO!!
AND the fact that dynos are for COMPARISON, NOT absolute numbers!. If your stock combo shows 75rwhp on the dyno and it shows 125 with mods, the 50rwhp gain is ALL you need to look at. Not that I would go back to that particular dyno... sheesh that's embarrassing... LOL
yessir! I gained 75 whp from longtubes, y pipe and a cam. Feels quite a bit faster than before. Not to mention my top end is intense. Seeing that needle bury past red line is a rush! 🤣🤣🤣 125whp in a shopping cart would be impressive
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Originally Posted by jfish75
Exactly, I was at 359 HP before the cam and injectors, so adding those got me almost 40 HP at the wheels.
before cam longtubes injectors fuel pump and bigger y I was at 311 I gained 74 whp. Definitely happy about how it feels and the power gain
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What RPM was the 385RWHP produced at??

I have a similar setup 360 RWHP at 5900 RPM see my Signature for details.
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Originally Posted by Biebs
What RPM was the 385RWHP produced at??

I have a similar setup 360 RWHP at 5900 RPM see my Signature for details.
nice car dude! It was at 6500 rpm. I did dual titanium valve springs .650 pac #199’s, 7.4” chromemoly pushrods, BTRv2 trunnion upgrade kit, 36# fast injectors, 255lph racetronix fuel pump with hot wire kit. I went for the full send tune and full send set up. Also ls2 timing chain. I’m not afraid to hit limiter at 6800 in first every now and again.
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Thanks

I have the Smith brother Truion upgrade and 42lb injectors I do not go over 5500 RPM no need very drivable setup - enjoy the torque up to 5000 RPM.

Car is very capable with BMR trans mount spins tires and no wheel hop
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Originally Posted by Biebs
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I have the Smith brother Truion upgrade and 42lb injectors I do not go over 5500 RPM no need very drivable setup - enjoy the torque up to 5000 RPM.

Car is very capable with BMR trans mount spins tires and no wheel hop
oh man you’re missing out. The 228r peaks at 62-6300 minimum. My car blows the tires off in 1st gear no matter what, and blows the tires off on a 1-2 shift. I shift at 6500 rpm. Ls1’s are more than capable of 6500 rpm runs with 0 issues at all
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Originally Posted by Biebs
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I have the Smith brother Truion upgrade and 42lb injectors I do not go over 5500 RPM no need very drivable setup - enjoy the torque up to 5000 RPM.

Car is very capable with BMR trans mount spins tires and no wheel hop
228r will always be a drivable set up when tuned properly. Especially on 112 lsa... stock suspension wheel hop Is worn out parts. My car was completely stock and still is suspension wise, 0 wheel hop at all.
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Looks like you made some decent numbers you would have been closer to 400rwhp if you went with the 1 7/8 headers and went with the dumped 3in x-pipe
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Looks like you made some decent numbers you would have been closer to 400rwhp if you went with the 1 7/8 headers and went with the dumped 3in x-pipe
yessir. I was reading that 1-7/8” won’t make that big of a difference but the 2.5” axle back with 3 mufflers is probably what robbed the power. It is what it is, the car isn’t crazy loud and has absolutely 0 drone. I love it. I’ll sacrifice 15 hp for that
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