Highest horsepower - 5.7L???
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Originally Posted by tim99ws6
Holy crap, the tq.......either someone gave you the run-around on a dyno sheet, or you have got yourself a stroker motor.
Could be, the previous owner said he replaced the shortblock w/ one that had forged rods and pistons. He didn't say anything about it being a stroker though....
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Originally Posted by YsoFast
30th t/a,
Don't hurt his feelings! After all he did pay cash for the car and wasted a butt load on those rims.
Don't hurt his feelings! After all he did pay cash for the car and wasted a butt load on those rims.
How much would you pay for the car....honestly.....if it had only 17K miles??
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Originally Posted by EATAZ06MMM
What is the highest rwhp that you have heard of for a 5.7L (non-stroker) motor w/ no nitrous or supercharger/turbo?As far as I can tell, 450 rwhp is about all you can get out of these motors.....
if the shortblock had to be replaced, it was probably ran pretty hard. You'd have a hard time getting me to pay anything over $20K
Think about it, at 17k miles, the motor is just getting worn in. Imagine how hard it had to be run to have to "replace the shortblock"
Think about it, at 17k miles, the motor is just getting worn in. Imagine how hard it had to be run to have to "replace the shortblock"
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Originally Posted by tim99ws6
if the shortblock had to be replaced, it was probably ran pretty hard. You'd have a hard time getting me to pay anything over $20K
Think about it, at 17k miles, the motor is just getting worn in. Imagine how hard it had to be run to have to "replace the shortblock"
Think about it, at 17k miles, the motor is just getting worn in. Imagine how hard it had to be run to have to "replace the shortblock"
Thats exactly what I paid - 20K. Rims and all. I thought it was a fair deal considering the rims. I get alot of coments on them.
The new motor has 7k miles on it. As you pointed out, may have been run hard though, so only 7k miles doesn't mean much.
Originally Posted by bickelfirebird
I understand that Allan's 347 makes 550rwhp n/a and is somewhat driveable on the street.
This thread has gone a bit far, so in summary I am going to answer the original question 500whp is ABOUT the realistic ceiling for a street car with stock cubes, 93 octane, hydraulic roller less than .625 lift, no power adders, no dope and no quantam drive. I think I covered it all.Brandon
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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
Somewhat driveable on the street, Ha. Seems like that is getting more and more common with these "street" cars. Someone made a remark about Harlan's car being a street car. The response was yeah he drives it on the street but it has a parachute. This thread has gone a bit far, so in summary I am going to answer the original question 500whp is ABOUT the realistic ceiling for a street car with stock cubes, 93 octane, hydraulic roller less than .625 lift, no power adders, no dope and no quantam drive. I think I covered it all.
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This thread has gone a bit far, so in summary I am going to answer the original question 500whp is ABOUT the realistic ceiling for a street car with stock cubes, 93 octane, hydraulic roller less than .625 lift, no power adders, no dope and no quantam drive. I think I covered it all.Brandon
no, I'm jsut kidding, that was well said, and I'm ready to move on
Originally Posted by tim99ws6
if the shortblock had to be replaced, it was probably ran pretty hard. You'd have a hard time getting me to pay anything over $20K
Think about it, at 17k miles, the motor is just getting worn in. Imagine how hard it had to be run to have to "replace the shortblock"
Think about it, at 17k miles, the motor is just getting worn in. Imagine how hard it had to be run to have to "replace the shortblock"
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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
Somewhat driveable on the street, Ha. Seems like that is getting more and more common with these "street" cars. Someone made a remark about Harlan's car being a street car. The response was yeah he drives it on the street but it has a parachute. This thread has gone a bit far, so in summary I am going to answer the original question 500whp is ABOUT the realistic ceiling for a street car with stock cubes, 93 octane, hydraulic roller less than .625 lift, no power adders, no dope and no quantam drive. I think I covered it all.
Brandon
This thread has gone a bit far, so in summary I am going to answer the original question 500whp is ABOUT the realistic ceiling for a street car with stock cubes, 93 octane, hydraulic roller less than .625 lift, no power adders, no dope and no quantam drive. I think I covered it all.Brandon
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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
Who said you have to replace a short block because it is trashed? Guys on here seem to swap motors as much as they change underwear, maybe more for some. He may have thrown a forged shortblock in so it would stand a 250 shot and 7500 rpm, then sold the original motor for a fair shake. Totally common.
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Originally Posted by 30th t/a
i want to make sure i get this straight, you have a h/c NA 346 with a m6 and your making these numbers in this dyno graph???
?http://community.webshots.com/photo/...96783024QdczKl im going to have to raise the . theres noway a 346, h/c N/A, m6 is making that much torque.
?http://community.webshots.com/photo/...96783024QdczKl im going to have to raise the
. theres noway a 346, h/c N/A, m6 is making that much torque.The torque curve also looks a bit odd because the scaling is different for hp vs. tq.
I love all the smack this guy is talking and he doesn't even know squat about his own car.
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Originally Posted by verbs
Of course it's BS. No way a 346 is making 450rwtq from 3200-4800rpms.
The torque curve also looks a bit odd because the scaling is different for hp vs. tq.
I love all the smack this guy is talking and he doesn't even know squat about his own car.
The torque curve also looks a bit odd because the scaling is different for hp vs. tq.
I love all the smack this guy is talking and he doesn't even know squat about his own car.
Ok, thats it!!
when did I ever...ever.......EVER SAY I had a 346!!!! Huh?? I dare you to go back through ALL of the posts and find where I stated that I had a 346?????I am out of here. No wonder half of you still live at home w/ mommie and daddy. Your too stupid to make it on your own.
I'm OUT!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by EATAZ06MMM
Ok, thats it!! when did I ever...ever.......EVER SAY I had a 346!!!! Huh?? I dare you to go back through ALL of the posts and find where I stated that I had a 346?????
I am out of here. No wonder half of you still live at home w/ mommie and daddy. Your too stupid to make it on your own.
I'm OUT!!!!!!!!!
when did I ever...ever.......EVER SAY I had a 346!!!! Huh?? I dare you to go back through ALL of the posts and find where I stated that I had a 346?????I am out of here. No wonder half of you still live at home w/ mommie and daddy. Your too stupid to make it on your own.
I'm OUT!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by EATAZ06MMM
Could be, the previous owner said he replaced the shortblock w/ one that had forged rods and pistons. He didn't say anything about it being a stroker though....
Have fun bench racing on the "other" sites!!!
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Originally Posted by LSUxBlake
Yeah, I don't think Allan ever dynos his car though, he's too busy working on other peoples cars. 
The original post asks about maximum n/a 347 rwhp, but does not limit it to street cars. This question came up a few months ago and a number of people felt like a 347 could make over 600 rwhp with high compression and leaded gas. I agree.
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Originally Posted by EATAZ06MMM
Ok, thats it!! when did I ever...ever.......EVER SAY I had a 346!!!! Huh?? I dare you to go back through ALL of the posts and find where I stated that I had a 346?????
I am out of here. No wonder half of you still live at home w/ mommie and daddy. Your too stupid to make it on your own.
I'm OUT!!!!!!!!!
when did I ever...ever.......EVER SAY I had a 346!!!! Huh?? I dare you to go back through ALL of the posts and find where I stated that I had a 346?????I am out of here. No wonder half of you still live at home w/ mommie and daddy. Your too stupid to make it on your own.
I'm OUT!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by EATAZ06MMM
Could be, the previous owner said he replaced the shortblock w/ one that had forged rods and pistons. He didn't say anything about it being a stroker though....
It looks like a stroker dyno graph if it's N/A like you claimed. Again, you are either clueless or full of it because a month ago you posted:
Originally Posted by EATAZ06MMM
I just bought a '98 Trans Am last week. Has all the goodies....Stage 2 heads...G5 cam (nice lope)...etc etc. The previous owner says the output is 403 rwhp w/o juice
I've been out of my parents house since I was 18 and I'm doing just great thanks.
Last edited by verbs; Mar 16, 2005 at 04:54 PM.
What's the whole point of building an all out pump gas 346 that isn't drivable anyway?
Hell, F1 cars are making >900hp on 3 liters of V8. That is N/A with pump gas. So they idle at 5k and redline at 20k.
You can make probably 700whp with a n/a 11:1 346. It wouldn't be at all driveable and have a 1k rpm powerband that starts at 6k but with enough money (READ 10s of thousands maybe more) Anything is possible.
If you're out to make power...why limit yourself to the hard way?
Hell, F1 cars are making >900hp on 3 liters of V8. That is N/A with pump gas. So they idle at 5k and redline at 20k.
You can make probably 700whp with a n/a 11:1 346. It wouldn't be at all driveable and have a 1k rpm powerband that starts at 6k but with enough money (READ 10s of thousands maybe more) Anything is possible.
If you're out to make power...why limit yourself to the hard way?
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How much would you pay for the car....honestly.....if it had only 17K miles??
This board has a wealth of knowledge but we don't like to put up with attitudes to much.