224/228 and AFR205 heads
Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
Camshafts are very personal choices as it is the major component which ultimiately determines your engines "personality" so to speak. Everyone's taste is different not to mention everyone's taste tends to change over time (need MORE cam....LOL).
What starts to happen is you might "over think" your decision and then all of a sudden you have wasted two months cause you can't make up your mind on what cam to go with. Big cam... Little Cam...nah...BIG cam....errr.....smaller-big cam??? 
Originally Posted by Black02SS
This statement is so true. What starts to happen is you might "over think" your decision and then all of a sudden you have wasted two months cause you can't make up your mind on what cam to go with. Big cam... Little Cam...nah...BIG cam....errr.....smaller-big cam???
What starts to happen is you might "over think" your decision and then all of a sudden you have wasted two months cause you can't make up your mind on what cam to go with. Big cam... Little Cam...nah...BIG cam....errr.....smaller-big cam??? We might have had a conversation or ten discussing this....
I say you only live once...try them all and see what you like the best
As I've posted, I have this setup for 1 year now...
Looking for a little bit more to go "to the next level", I relied on Tony Mamo's experience, and with his help he directed me to a larger cam that would work out nicely with the AFR 205 heads, and his ported FAST intake & LS2 TB...
Tony takes all things into consideration & looks at your specific overall package.
Me personally with a forged shortblock, I can't wait to post up some new #'s & track times..
Tony is the man!!
NOT a salesman, just THE MAN, who really does CARE about how your car will run with his suggested components....!
I bantered with Tony for months about cams, intake etc, and he was ALWAYS professional & PROMPT to return emails & pms....
If you're considering making a move or want to tweak your AFR heads/cam combo, I suggest bouncing it off Tony first... You will NOT regret it!
Thanks bro....!
Looking for a little bit more to go "to the next level", I relied on Tony Mamo's experience, and with his help he directed me to a larger cam that would work out nicely with the AFR 205 heads, and his ported FAST intake & LS2 TB...
Tony takes all things into consideration & looks at your specific overall package.
Me personally with a forged shortblock, I can't wait to post up some new #'s & track times..
Tony is the man!!
NOT a salesman, just THE MAN, who really does CARE about how your car will run with his suggested components....!
I bantered with Tony for months about cams, intake etc, and he was ALWAYS professional & PROMPT to return emails & pms....
If you're considering making a move or want to tweak your AFR heads/cam combo, I suggest bouncing it off Tony first... You will NOT regret it!
Thanks bro....!
Last edited by YO-EL; Nov 8, 2006 at 04:27 PM.
Originally Posted by YO-EL
Looking for a little bit more to go "to the next level", I relied on Tony Mamo's experience, and with his help he directed me to a larger cam that would work out nicely with the AFR 205 heads, and his ported FAST intake & LS2 TB...
Tony takes all things into consideration & looks at your specific overall package.
Tony is the man!!
NOT a salesman, just THE MAN, who really does CARE about how your car will run with his suggested components....!
I bantered with Tony for months about cams, intake etc, and he was ALWAYS professional & PROMPT to return emails & pms....
Tony takes all things into consideration & looks at your specific overall package.
Tony is the man!!
NOT a salesman, just THE MAN, who really does CARE about how your car will run with his suggested components....!
I bantered with Tony for months about cams, intake etc, and he was ALWAYS professional & PROMPT to return emails & pms....
Very well said!! I agree 100% Tony has helped me alot and will always give you advice free of bullshit, and not some sales pitch like a lot of vendors do
Last edited by MSGHUFF; Nov 8, 2006 at 01:27 PM.
I'm running a very simular setup in one of my customers cars. There should be a integrated power under the curve rating on dynojets so people will be less excited about peak numbers.
Anyway, this car makes 429 peak rwhp but traps almost 2mph faster on street tires than another car we know with a peaky 460+rwhp with tires/rear etc.
Anyway, this car makes 429 peak rwhp but traps almost 2mph faster on street tires than another car we know with a peaky 460+rwhp with tires/rear etc.
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We have installed many 205/with matching cam installs with results in the 425-450 range. Power is great all around for most customers. The bigger cam will bring the power up but also diminish some of the low end that makes those heads a great performer.
Tuning is a bit more predictable as well, especially for idle quality.
Howard
Tuning is a bit more predictable as well, especially for idle quality.
Howard
I am running the Comp 224/230 .581/.592 114LSA and I hardly ever hear of anyone running the same setup. I have virtually every bolton possible minus the electric waterpump. I have completely redone my valvetrain including Ferrea valves, Comp pushrods, Comp locks, Comp retainers, Comp roller rockers, Comp lifters, Ported Heads(stock 
) with a 5 angle valve job, and Comp 918 springs. Everyone and their dog that I have consulted has told me that I have a completely ***** setup. I get tired of hearing it. I have no dyno #'s yet but I am anxiously awaiting the day. I also have a NX 150 wetshot to throw into the mix. Is this cam even close to the AFR cam? I am almost retarded when it comes to understanding characteristics of a motor when talking about what is good/ bad. Are any of you guys running this cam or do you know anyone who is running this cam? What kind of #'s do you think it is capable of putting down (on and off the bottle)?
The Grind # for anyone interested is XER273HR-14.
Any help would be appreciated!
P.S. I have do not know the flow #'s of my heads but I have had several guys come up to me @ my local speed shop and ask if I would like to trade them for their Assembled and ported LS6 Heads. Can ported LS1 heads be a decent head when they are done up right?
) with a 5 angle valve job, and Comp 918 springs. Everyone and their dog that I have consulted has told me that I have a completely ***** setup. I get tired of hearing it. I have no dyno #'s yet but I am anxiously awaiting the day. I also have a NX 150 wetshot to throw into the mix. Is this cam even close to the AFR cam? I am almost retarded when it comes to understanding characteristics of a motor when talking about what is good/ bad. Are any of you guys running this cam or do you know anyone who is running this cam? What kind of #'s do you think it is capable of putting down (on and off the bottle)?The Grind # for anyone interested is XER273HR-14.
Any help would be appreciated!
P.S. I have do not know the flow #'s of my heads but I have had several guys come up to me @ my local speed shop and ask if I would like to trade them for their Assembled and ported LS6 Heads. Can ported LS1 heads be a decent head when they are done up right?
Last edited by transaman98; Nov 13, 2006 at 08:32 PM.
Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
Sure...
That cam would also work well.
Slightly less "stealth", a little softer at the lower RPM's, but overall a solid performing cam especially in the middle and upper part of the power curve....a good choice for a slightly more aggressive H/C package thats still reasonably nice to drive. Camshafts are very personal choices as it is the major component which ultimiately determines your engines "personality" so to speak. Everyone's taste is different not to mention everyone's taste tends to change over time (need MORE cam....LOL).
What I wanted to really hit home with the more conservative 224/228 cam is that the right selection of parts (heads being the major player here) can generate big power will still retaining good street manners with a smallish performance cam. My only regret looking back is I didnt slide in a thumper cam just to show how a good AFR 205 combo (obviously already very optimized in my C5) could clear 500 RWHP in light of the small runner design which also pays big dividends in throttle response, part throttle grunt (or "roll on" which is a popular phrase when discussing hi perf bike results), and obviously fuel economy as well. If you can make the same or similar power on a dyno with a much smaller port the car is simply going to be and feel noticably quicker and more "alive" when cruising around at the lower RPM's....those who argue that isnt the case are talking out of their butt's or have some other agenda's. Oh yeah....I remember now why I never tried sliding in the big cam....I decided to join the "Lucky #7 club" instead
Got off on a tangent here a bit....but to summarize, the cam you are inquiring about would be a good choice in a slightly more aggressive H/C combo, but one that is still tame enough to be a daily driver for most of you reading this...especially on the 114 LSA which will keep it a bit tamer and make good numbers upstairs.
Hope this helps...
Tony M.
That cam would also work well.
Slightly less "stealth", a little softer at the lower RPM's, but overall a solid performing cam especially in the middle and upper part of the power curve....a good choice for a slightly more aggressive H/C package thats still reasonably nice to drive. Camshafts are very personal choices as it is the major component which ultimiately determines your engines "personality" so to speak. Everyone's taste is different not to mention everyone's taste tends to change over time (need MORE cam....LOL).
What I wanted to really hit home with the more conservative 224/228 cam is that the right selection of parts (heads being the major player here) can generate big power will still retaining good street manners with a smallish performance cam. My only regret looking back is I didnt slide in a thumper cam just to show how a good AFR 205 combo (obviously already very optimized in my C5) could clear 500 RWHP in light of the small runner design which also pays big dividends in throttle response, part throttle grunt (or "roll on" which is a popular phrase when discussing hi perf bike results), and obviously fuel economy as well. If you can make the same or similar power on a dyno with a much smaller port the car is simply going to be and feel noticably quicker and more "alive" when cruising around at the lower RPM's....those who argue that isnt the case are talking out of their butt's or have some other agenda's. Oh yeah....I remember now why I never tried sliding in the big cam....I decided to join the "Lucky #7 club" instead
Got off on a tangent here a bit....but to summarize, the cam you are inquiring about would be a good choice in a slightly more aggressive H/C combo, but one that is still tame enough to be a daily driver for most of you reading this...especially on the 114 LSA which will keep it a bit tamer and make good numbers upstairs.
Hope this helps...
Tony M.
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Originally Posted by Ls1Envy
Do you think the g5x1 cam would be a better performer at the track, mph wise. I'm currently looking at either the AFR Street cam or something like the g5x1.
Originally Posted by offaxis
Is anyone with this combo running 10`s N/A ?
Originally Posted by 02SOMWS6
I ran a 11.2 @ 120 before I had the car retuned and picked up 22rwhp and 37rwtq. I haven't been back to the track since the retune but it should get me in the 10's NA. If I had a set of AFR's I would say it would be in the 10's easy.
I would think so too but how in this thread with this combo are?
I have been looking at these heads for a while now
Last week I ended up finding a good deal on the 205's. I sent them off to AFR to get them milled to 62cc. Tony helped me decide on a cam. I ended up getting a custom grind 230/232 114LSA Comp Xer lobes.
I have the itch now, and I'm just waiting for all the parts to come in so I can start the install. I'll be sure to post my track times and dyno results before new years.
I have the itch now, and I'm just waiting for all the parts to come in so I can start the install. I'll be sure to post my track times and dyno results before new years.