jblack245

anyone got this set-up? i think this will be my set-up next month please tell me about it and post dyno numbers please

TXZ28LS1

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i know a couple people i think are running that cam. i think thats the split that i believe tony mamo recommends for his afr 205.. im sure somebody will chime in.

Tony Mamo @ AFR

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There are dozens of folks with that combo....

That is the AFR "street" cam (AFR PN 6016) I featured in my personal ride for about a year (with the stock displacement short) and its the perfet daily driver cam thats still capable of laying down a number with the right complimenting components.

There is volumes of info on my personal combination (look under threads started under my screen name) which routinely laid down 475/435 thru a six speed and a 3.90 ring and pinion. Note that those type of results won't come easy and require every conceivable bolt on, an efficient exhaust with a merge collector, and a decent amount of time spent tuning on the dyno.

Many guys have hit 425-450 RWHP with that cam including the typical bolt ons, exhaust, and of course the right tune (which always plays an important role in the end results).

Bottom line if your looking for stock type driving manners and good power over the entire curve, that cam is the perfect choice. As you move higher from there in duration, street manners start to suffer and of course peak power figures start to inflate. It becomes a give and take scenario based on how aggressive you get with duration and LSA. Something a little bigger will still behave well, but low speed TQ starts to take a hit. Camshaft choice is a very personal one....do your homework and if possible get a ride in a few buddies cars. It might help you make a better decision long term....

Tony M.

MSGHUFF

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Great combo! I had it in my old motor and loved it. Made 440/417 and ran a best of 11.45@124. I posted the graph here on the site, just search under my name....

mhoglund

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I'm running a 222/228 .589/.589 My peak numbers are garbage, but its a high 11's low 12's at the track

YO-EL

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I've had this combo for the last year now..
Absolutely love it...
Ran 11.20 @ 122 last November..
Ran 11.33 @ 120 last week 48 degrees 100 DA...

Here is a dyno sheet from TODAY 10/26/06 on a load bearing dyno..
Not sure if the converter was locked or not..
Looks like its on the converter (unlocked) the whole time??
(so maybe skew the #'s up 20-26.. not sure....)
431 RWHP 374 TQ
A/F ratio was 12.8

eamador11

You will love that combo...just a plain street killer setup. My dyno was only 416rwhp, 384rwt, but Ive smacked around the big cam guys so those numbers dont mean anything to me.

carado1984

ive always wondered why people always use such small cams with the afr heads i know some of the 224/228 cams are matched well but id have to think theres some being left on the table, yet you guys always put up good times regardless of the numbers. It just seems like for the price of the heads you would get more out of it.. Im not going against the heads at all, i know theyre known as one of the best heads out there but i have a hard time spending almost 2500 for heads to get 430 when i could get that almost with just a cam. Im saying this because i want to buy afr heads lol

MeentSS02

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430 cam only just won't give you the around-town driveability that a 430 RWHP heads/cam car will. Someone said it once that both can make the same power, it's just that the heads/cam car will do it much more gracefully.

jblack245

Can u post ur car? year, gears, m6 or a4? bolt-on plz

YO-EL

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Yea:
2000 Corvette A4
3:73 rear
Vig 3200
AFR 205's 62 cc
AFR 224/228@114
LG long tubes
GHL exhaust
FLP Level IV

RGR Pete

Great daily driver set-up, 22mpg hwy. See sig for mods. stock 3.23 rear

jblack245

what is FLP Level IV?????

MeentSS02

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Built Automatic Transmission, done by FLP.

jblack245

nice numbers. i got a a4 too. only 22mpg hwy? is that right or avg? i have 2.73 gears and get 28mpg hwy with my few mods

eamador11

At that point it comes down to driveability preference. sure, anyone can get higher numbers with bigger cams but how much does your driveability have to suffer? amount of stress on valve springs? thats when you need to think "best combination" without sacraficing anything. 224/228 delivers that for you thanks to the R&D of Tony.

ExceSSive

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That looks good, those #'s and track times are definitely something to look into with this set-up.

Would the G5X1 228/232 .588/.574 114 have this kind of symbiotic relationship with the AFR205's?

Tony any input?

Tony Mamo @ AFR

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Sure...

That cam would also work well.

Slightly less "stealth", a little softer at the lower RPM's, but overall a solid performing cam especially in the middle and upper part of the power curve....a good choice for a slightly more aggressive H/C package thats still reasonably nice to drive. Camshafts are very personal choices as it is the major component which ultimiately determines your engines "personality" so to speak. Everyone's taste is different not to mention everyone's taste tends to change over time (need MORE cam....LOL).

What I wanted to really hit home with the more conservative 224/228 cam is that the right selection of parts (heads being the major player here) can generate big power will still retaining good street manners with a smallish performance cam. My only regret looking back is I didnt slide in a thumper cam just to show how a good AFR 205 combo (obviously already very optimized in my C5) could clear 500 RWHP in light of the small runner design which also pays big dividends in throttle response, part throttle grunt (or "roll on" which is a popular phrase when discussing hi perf bike results), and obviously fuel economy as well. If you can make the same or similar power on a dyno with a much smaller port the car is simply going to be and feel noticably quicker and more "alive" when cruising around at the lower RPM's....those who argue that isnt the case are talking out of their butt's or have some other agenda's. Oh yeah....I remember now why I never tried sliding in the big cam....I decided to join the "Lucky #7 club" instead

Got off on a tangent here a bit....but to summarize, the cam you are inquiring about would be a good choice in a slightly more aggressive H/C combo, but one that is still tame enough to be a daily driver for most of you reading this...especially on the 114 LSA which will keep it a bit tamer and make good numbers upstairs.

Hope this helps...

Tony M.

1nastyss

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where the hell can you find the AFR cams, ive been on the AFR website and i still cant find anything on the cams....Also, Tony, what do u have to do to get a ported fast 90/90 intake from you,,,,do u sell them or have people just been sending them to you to port

Tony Mamo @ AFR

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The "AFR cam" (224/228) is AFR P/N 6016 and we keep a few of them on the shelf at all times. Call any one of our Sales Techs and they can help you out.

Regarding the intake feel free to call or PM me....whichever is more convenient for you. I already sent you a PM in this case.

Our phone is (661)257-8124

My direct extension is 109 or press one for anyone in the Sales/Technical Dept.

Easy stuff....

Regards,
Tony