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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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I have been reading about peoples modifications and their numbers. I see that cam only cars are making 380 plus hp on an LS1. I have Patriot LS6 heads, mild cam, ported throttle body, FLP long tubes, 12 bolt with 3.93 gears. I am putting down 392whp. I just think that I would be making more power. That is all!

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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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I have been reading about peoples modifications and their numbers. I see that cam only cars are making 380 plus hp on an LS1. I have Patriot LS6 heads, mild cam, ported throttle body, FLP long tubes, 12 bolt with 3.93 gears. I am putting down 392whp. I just think that I would be making more power. That is all!

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The thing you don't see is the other 50% of the members here not posting there #'s which are just like yours
Your #'s are respectable,between the 12 bolt and your probly missing some bolt-ons which add up. No biggie.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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I noticed that some members are around what I am at. Just caught my attention when I seen a cam only LS1 with 400whp.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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I am guessing that your car is a auto.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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How "mild" is your cam?
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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It is a 6 speed with a 231/237 112LSA cam
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FASTLS1WS6
I have been reading about peoples modifications and their numbers. I see that cam only cars are making 380 plus hp on an LS1. I have Patriot LS6 heads, mild cam, ported throttle body, FLP long tubes, 12 bolt with 3.93 gears. I am putting down 392whp. I just think that I would be making more power. That is all!

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The type of dynomometer plays a role in this. Not all dynos read equally. a dynojet 248 will generally generate a numbr some 16-17% higher than an equivalent mustang. Depends on the dyno model to. The other thing is that the intake manifold will HOLD YOU BACK. you do have an LS6 intake correct ? if not that could be your missing HP also some engines seem to vary wildly.How much of a gain did you get from factory with bolts ons to ls6 ported heads and cam ? also what type of dyno ? i wouldn;t call that 231/237 112lsa cam mild. I would call it handicapped. At a certian point with duration the lsa needs to widen up to work with the natural helmoholtz frequency tunning in the intake. there are a million things that could be going on. Post up some sheets of the dyno pull the dyno type etc i will do my best to help you out.
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I have cam and boltons and Im pushing 425hp. Do you think it could be your tune?
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6FASTTOY
I have cam and boltons and Im pushing 425hp. Do you think it could be your tune?
What type of dyno ?? it does make a difference.
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Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive
The type of dynomometer plays a role in this. Not all dynos read equally. a dynojet 248 will generally generate a numbr some 16-17% higher than an equivalent mustang.
if thats the case then FASTLS1WS6's numbers would be 466.6 on a dynojet, and WS6FASTTOY is only putting down 357 according to a mustang dyno, DAMN thats a hell of a difference, are you sure its 16/17%? i know the dynojets read higher but thats an awful lot..
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If thats all im realy pushing then I need to total my POS. lol!
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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you're probably runnin a conservative tune, an underdrive pulley will help and the 12 bolt is costing you about 10 rwhp....numbers aint that bad
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Just wondering, have you ever had the car to the track?
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spy2520
if thats the case then FASTLS1WS6's numbers would be 466.6 on a dynojet, and WS6FASTTOY is only putting down 357 according to a mustang dyno, DAMN thats a hell of a difference, are you sure its 16/17%? i know the dynojets read higher but thats an awful lot..

From what i have seen this seems to be the spread. The research is in dynojet can vary on the lowside i would say at least 10% and a high of 20% depends on the dynojet since they all vary with each other as much as 7%. The mustangs we have checked at least all the local ones. they seem to be within 1-2% of each other. Granted weather can play a factor for sure. Someone should start a thread comparing dyno sheets vs timeslips and see how this adds up.just an idea.

And believe it or not those numbers you have calculated add up like they normally do.

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Whats really interesting is that were are seeing a trend to higher % difference between the mustang and the dynojet as power goes up. Could be due to the fact that mustangs most anyways are loaded dynos that sort of control the step rate and dynojets most of them are pure inertia and show acceleration a bit better. could be the reason for the disparity, Could also be that dynojet dynos just don't properly calculate power.

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I don't know but if my car ain't pushing at least 400hp Im goin to tatal that bitch. lol!
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Originally Posted by FASTLS1WS6
231/237 112LSA cam

That isn't quite a "mild" cam, but I don't think your #'s are bad....the 12-bolt hurts the #'s on the dyno.
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Originally Posted by FASTLS1WS6
It is a 6 speed with a 231/237 112LSA cam
Thats not a mild Cam
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6FASTTOY
I don't know but if my car ain't pushing at least 400hp Im goin to tatal that bitch. lol!
1 in 10 vehicles that we see makes over 400hp and most do not. Very few head/cam cars even approach that number.With that much power you should be abel to run into the 11's easily.
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Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive
The type of dynomometer plays a role in this. Not all dynos read equally. a dynojet 248 will generally generate a numbr some 16-17% higher than an equivalent mustang. Depends on the dyno model to. The other thing is that the intake manifold will HOLD YOU BACK. you do have an LS6 intake correct ? if not that could be your missing HP also some engines seem to vary wildly.How much of a gain did you get from factory with bolts ons to ls6 ported heads and cam ? also what type of dyno ? i wouldn;t call that 231/237 112lsa cam mild. I would call it handicapped. At a certian point with duration the lsa needs to widen up to work with the natural helmoholtz frequency tunning in the intake. there are a million things that could be going on. Post up some sheets of the dyno pull the dyno type etc i will do my best to help you out.
I will try and get the dyno sheet up as soon as I can.

I do have the ls6 intake.
I am not sure what u mean by hanicapped?
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