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View Poll Results: what heads should i go with?
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tea or tsp?
Originally Posted by mike c.
JEFFSTAR- SUCKS TO BE WRONG DONT IT? PAT-G said it,LG MOTORSPORTS. mine made 463hp w/12bolt and gears stock weight everything hooked up,no tricks on a mustang dyno. on a jet i should of been around 490hp. AFR's are worth the price.
I think you have to give Jeff his dues, I don't know of ANY individual that bolted the stuff on in his garage, tuned it himself and made almost 500 RWHP. I think all of the other "over 500 RWHP" combo's were shop cars.
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Originally Posted by Greg Good
The poll should only be for customers. It's kind of gay for someone to vote for himself.
Agreed, the owners shouldn't be voting for their own heads. Whichever company has more employees would win.
Customers only would be a more fair poll.
Originally Posted by mike c.
DONAIMIAN- wow....was that your best. god i hope not,it really hurt. 
try again.
try again.
Last edited by 02NBMWS6; Feb 14, 2007 at 03:24 PM.
Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
with your last 2 posts you make yourself look more stupid than anypne else could have
Well...wait a minute.. I made over 1,000 RWHP with a set of TSP's stage 2 heads, and one of their cams. Maybe not a stock short block..but they flowed like nobodys business.
My vote definatly goes to TSP.... mainly because i have a hard time believing all the numbers from those Trick Flow heads.... I don't know if i have seen numbers from anyones dyno beside Tooley, and Vengence, and they seem to be good friends.
Even if they do flow better, i bet they don't flow a thousand dollars better
My vote definatly goes to TSP.... mainly because i have a hard time believing all the numbers from those Trick Flow heads.... I don't know if i have seen numbers from anyones dyno beside Tooley, and Vengence, and they seem to be good friends.
Even if they do flow better, i bet they don't flow a thousand dollars better
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Originally Posted by ls1itldo
Well...wait a minute.. I made over 1,000 RWHP with a set of TSP's stage 2 heads, and one of their cams.
What are the track numbers(more interested in MPH for this discusion)
Originally Posted by ls1itldo
i have a hard time believing all the numbers from those Trick Flow heads.... I don't know if i have seen numbers from anyones dyno beside Tooley, and Vengence, and they seem to be good friends.
Are you implying that TEA/Vengeance are inflating the numbers? .... and that b/c they have a working relationship that they are in cahoots to inflate TFS sales? 
Or is it you're just ill that TEA/Vengeance have spent the R&D to offer up a product that is consistantly getting supperior results
Originally Posted by ls1itldo
Even if they do flow better, i bet they don't flow a thousand dollars better
Kinda' like some not being able to "justify" an EWP, or light weight rotating assemblies/coatings. It' all relative to each owners needs/goals.
Is LostCauseZo6 a relative of yours?
Originally Posted by ls1itldo
Well...wait a minute.. I made over 1,000 RWHP with a set of TSP's stage 2 heads, and one of their cams. Maybe not a stock short block..but they flowed like nobodys business.
My vote definatly goes to TSP.... mainly because i have a hard time believing all the numbers from those Trick Flow heads.... I don't know if i have seen numbers from anyones dyno beside Tooley, and Vengence, and they seem to be good friends.
Even if they do flow better, i bet they don't flow a thousand dollars better
My vote definatly goes to TSP.... mainly because i have a hard time believing all the numbers from those Trick Flow heads.... I don't know if i have seen numbers from anyones dyno beside Tooley, and Vengence, and they seem to be good friends.
Even if they do flow better, i bet they don't flow a thousand dollars better
East Coast Supercharging has made over 500 RHWP, Vette Doctors (CrazeeZ06) made 498 with an LS6 INTAKE, Jeffstar made 498 doing the install and tuning himself, and Vengeance has a couple of cars doing it.
With your current combo, I would think that they would hold head gaskets $1000 worth of more money better, cause if you are using OEM castings, then it's a wonder the heads are still on the car.
Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
With your current combo, I would think that they would hold head gaskets $1000 worth of more money better, cause if you are using OEM castings, then it's a wonder the heads are still on the car.
I am sure you would think that, but your wrong. Or is this another one of your opinions that you insist are fact. I have had no problems with head gaskets, the heads are great. Can beat the service that comes with them either.
Originally Posted by ls1itldo
Well...wait a minute.. I made over 1,000 RWHP with a set of TSP's stage 2 heads, and one of their cams. Maybe not a stock short block..but they flowed like nobodys business.
My vote definatly goes to TSP.... mainly because i have a hard time believing all the numbers from those Trick Flow heads.... I don't know if i have seen numbers from anyones dyno beside Tooley, and Vengence, and they seem to be good friends.
Even if they do flow better, i bet they don't flow a thousand dollars better
My vote definatly goes to TSP.... mainly because i have a hard time believing all the numbers from those Trick Flow heads.... I don't know if i have seen numbers from anyones dyno beside Tooley, and Vengence, and they seem to be good friends.
Even if they do flow better, i bet they don't flow a thousand dollars better
I've personally seen the intake side of a set of TFS heads flow 335cfm @ .650 on SAM's SuperFlow SF-600, with NICE low/mid range flow. that was with TFS's 215cc cylinder head.
Last edited by ProjecT 9; Feb 19, 2007 at 02:56 PM.
Originally Posted by ls1itldo
My vote definatly goes to TSP.... mainly because i have a hard time believing all the numbers from those Trick Flow heads.... I don't know if i have seen numbers from anyones dyno beside Tooley, and Vengence, and they seem to be good friends.
My car isn't set up for the track and to be honest I'll probably sell it before it ever makes it there.
Originally Posted by roosteracer
what should i go with?
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Jeffstar
Hey you mentioned a stock clutch and writing your own program with HPtuners so are you familiar with removing Torque Management with HPtuners and do you know if it could cause the clutch to slip after removal???
Hey you mentioned a stock clutch and writing your own program with HPtuners so are you familiar with removing Torque Management with HPtuners and do you know if it could cause the clutch to slip after removal???
Yes. All torque management is removed. My stock clutch has 20,000 miles on it and very very very little abuse (sans dyno and a few street pulls) and is still grabbing fine. Also my stock clutch is an LS6 clutch because my car is an 02. Probably why it's still in good shape. Car has never had slicks on it and never been launched at a 1/4 strip.
Bang for buck go with TSP, it you want a very high quality high end head then TEA.
Look at my dyno results and graph in my thread here, great top end power for a small cam and major power down low the TEA heads are awesome.
Look at my dyno results and graph in my thread here, great top end power for a small cam and major power down low the TEA heads are awesome.