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Old 03-10-2007, 10:54 PM
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I just looked at their site. It is a Dynocom DC-1800XSE Eddy Dynamometer. It's hard to compare numbers from different brand dynos.
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Damn !! Very impressive numbers man

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Lets just say this cam kicks some ***.

Vengeance Vindicator Cam

Specs: 240/244 608/598 112


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Old 03-10-2007, 11:35 PM
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I'm gonna attempt to back these up on Tuesday on a Dynojet 224. Gut feeling is they will be 5-10 lower on Tuesday.
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
I just looked at their site. It is a Dynocom DC-1800XSE Eddy Dynamometer. It's hard to compare numbers from different brand dynos.
It's a mustang dyno, but apparently its calibrated to run with dyno-jets.
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
I'm gonna attempt to back these up on Tuesday on a Dynojet 224. Gut feeling is they will be 5-10 lower on Tuesday.
I'de save ur $$ unless you want to pay for dyno #'s, track #'s (mph for power) are what count not dyno #'s. Hell my old combo woulda only put out 380-385rwhp tops (got valve float past 5800 and I never got a chance to get it back on the dyno before it blew a head gasket), but I still managed 118mph in a full weight car in the 1/4. If you trap 122+ you obviously are backing up the #'s, but if you are <120 then something is obviously wrong. I'm curious to see how it runs.

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Old 03-11-2007, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
I'de save ur $$ unless you want to pay for dyno #'s, track #'s (mph for power) are what count not dyno #'s. Hell my old combo woulda only put out 380-385rwhp tops (got valve float past 5800 and I never got a chance to get it back on the dyno before it blew a head gasket), but I still managed 118mph in a full weight car in the 1/4. If you trap 122+ you obviously are backing up the #'s, but if you are <120 then something is obviously wrong. I'm curious to see how it runs.
Your right, screw it. I'll get the real numbers Saturday at the track.
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good luck at the track...should get some nice numbers!!
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Um, no it's not, it's a Dynocom Dyno. Regardless look forword to seeing some track numbers.

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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
It's a mustang dyno, but apparently its calibrated to run with dyno-jets.
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Congrats on the numbers! Tq. curve is killer. Looks like 400 @ about 3400ish and carries all the way over to about 5700ish. Not too shabby!

I swear... it's never enough for some folks, but when it is, all of a sudden it's BS.

I guess it must be true that everyone who uses VRD's cams or H/C combos is also useing bad dyno's/operators that are over inflating the numbers........

Then when their junk goes 6's @ 100+ or traps 120 or better in full weight street cars, it's once again still not quite enough

So sad-

I was at the shop yesterday drooling over my new VRD L92 stroker build when Ron got your e-mail.
Brought a smile to everyone's face

Look forward to seeing some more impressive numbers out of the VRD camp-

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I saw your car there, That's going to be a nice set-up...
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Cmon even you have to know those #'s are hard to believe, expecially through a flowmaster, one of my friends gained 25rwhp with a cutout and he only put down 375rwhp. Now if you go to the track and trap 122+ I'll shut my mouth.
Mine makes 410 and traps 122+, so that should be 124-5
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Originally Posted by SLowETz
Congrats on the numbers! Tq. curve is killer. Looks like 400 @ about 3400ish and carries all the way over to about 5700ish. Not too shabby!

I swear... it's never enough for some folks, but when it is, all of a sudden it's BS.

I guess it must be true that everyone who uses VRD's cams or H/C combos is also useing bad dyno's/operators that are over inflating the numbers........

Then when their junk goes 6's @ 100+ or traps 120 or better in full weight street cars, it's once again still not quite enough

So sad-

I was at the shop yesterday drooling over my new VRD L92 stroker build when Ron got your e-mail.
Brought a smile to everyone's face

Look forward to seeing some more impressive numbers out of the VRD camp-
Brought a smile to mine as well. Can't wait for Saturday.

Somewhat better graph posted.

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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
Mine makes 410 and traps 122+, so that should be 124-5

How heavy?
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Congrats on the #'s ! Cant wait to see your track results
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Mines full weight m6 and traps between 123-125. Mostly mid 124's. 446/415 to the wheels.
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OK, I seriously don't understand how someone is getting 400 ft/lbs at 3,500 RPM's on a stock cube LS1 with stock heads, intake and a 240 dur camshaft.

Can anyone explains this to me, cause I'm lost????
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compression! It's advanced , that's the only thing that makes sense to me.
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Get rid of that Flowmaster Catback. People have gained 20+ rwhp by switching to a better exhaust, even the stock exhaust has given people better numbers on the dyno.

So true duals + 90/90 = 480 rwhp cam only?

Or go for true duals, TFS 215's and ported 90/90 for 550 rwhp NA 346?
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Originally Posted by stevewix
compression! It's advanced , that's the only thing that makes sense to me.
Yeah but isn't this the same camshaft?

Close to the same exact setup....

How do you get 30 more ft/lbs at 3,500 RPM's?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/651647-2002-z06-cam-only-vengeance-racing-vindicator-vs-competing-shop.html

I'm not trying to crack on anyone, Vengenance obviously knows what they are doing and have way more experience than I'll ever have, I'm just trying to understand how this car is making that much power. I went with a 228/232 in my LS2 GTO just to get this kind of a torque curve and gave up some topend to do so. This just looks like the best of both worlds and I don't understand how they got it.
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Wow nice numbers. that thing should run good now. how do you like your HSW tune? i just got mine back from them a couple weeks ago and couldnt be happier. great people to deal with. also where at in philly are you?


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